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Wow, it's been month since I've posted something here. Well, to be perfectly honest, I've just been too busy. However, I think that I should at least make a follow up to the 2 Fast 2 Furious entry. I saw it roughly a month ago with my brother one Tuesday night.
Long story short, the movie sucked. While this one actually had a plot, it was just plain boring. My brother actually fell asleep while we watched, and the first words out of our mouths when it ended were "sucked".
I was at least hoping that this would be more "realistic" then the first, but alas, I was quite wrong. I mean, the whole premise was completely unbelievable. And since when did all cars start blowing flames when they accellerate? A car blows flames when it decellerates (as the throttle snaps shut and creates a momentary rich condition). I'll give it one thing though. It did nicely show a decent of "Detroit iron" muscle cars beating the pants of some riced out whatever-they-were (MR2 and Eclipse? Too bad, because those two cars in stock form are actually pretty nice). That's gotta' seriously piss off the little ricers out there. And it is nice that the entire movie was not an advertisement for N.O.S.
Now I don't expect a movie to be entirely realistic, but I've attended many a street racing event, and they are NOTHING AT ALL like that. Who the hell races for pink slips except 16 year old punks in Civics?
Sigh. I just don't know anymore. As long as there isn't a 3rd one, I guess we're OK...
|I CANT BELIEVE HOW MANY COMMENTS THIS IS GETTING I LIKE IMPORTS AND DOMESTICS AND NEVER FIGURED OUT WHY PEOPLE HAVE THIS HUGE DEBATE ON WHICH IS BETTER. I LOVE HONDAS WHEN U PUT SOME MONEY INTO THEM THEY CAN BE FAST I DONT LIKE THE HONDAS THAT SOUND LIKE LONG FARTS ON THE FREEWAY OR THAT HAVE WINGS BIG ENOUGH FOR SOUTHWEST AIRLINES I LIKE DOMESTICS TOO BUT I DONT LIKE THE ONES THAT SOUND BEEFY BECAUSE THEY PUT SOME CHERRY BOMB GLASS PACKS ON THEM EITHER SO TO END THE DEBATE HONDAS ARE GOOD FAST CARS WHEN BUILT RIGHT BUT I GOTTA FACE IT THE AMERICAN CAR BUILDS TORQUE BETTER LOOK AT THE DYNOS A TURBO HONDA WOULD PROBABY BE LIKE 569HP 312TQ ON 25PSI BUT A MUSTANG OR CHEVY WOULD BE PROBABLY 569HP WITH 632TQ ON 20 PSI (NOT SERIOUSLY BUT U KNOW WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY) I HATE TO SAY BUT THE AMERICAN CAR IS BETTER AND I HAPPEN TO OWN A SHOP THAT BUILDS HONDA/ACURA MOTORS
(Editor's notes: Caps Lock. Learn it.)
|Wait, no Aaron, an MR2 would actually have a bit of performance to it.|
|It's a fucking movie for christ sake, not a documentary.|
|ok shoting flames is the dumest fucking thing ive ever heard of evos and 240s are hot cuz im really into drifting but look how easy it is to get 700, 800, even 900 horceies out of a naturaly asperiated v8 now show me a 600 horsepower naturaly asperaited evo that wont blow up every 2 seconds alot of the ricers with there celicas and crxs are making me laugh so hard now why the hell wud u put a spark plug in ur fucking exaust hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah|
|Fuck The V8s Lame Guidos and their fucking pony Tails The only thing about cars on the news tonight will be a V8 around a pole.|
|LOL at all these posts. I'll keep it goin. The movie was aight and a lot of the cars were a lil too ricey but Tokyo Drift was the best. I love all cars including domestics but I gots to represent the import tuners. You gotta respect all quick cars from ferraris to civics that hit 13s and lower. Stop the ignorance and open up your mind, jus because other people don't like what you prefer doesn't mean you should be a punk ass hater.|
|I have a modified 2005 mini cooper S... I don't care about the your penis is smaller than my cock ricer/muscle arguments in this post prolly cuz my car's made by fuckin' BMW... The argument's futile if not just outright infantile. Stupid. I was reading a lot of it and everyone kinda sounds the same in their posts going back and forth saying, "you're stupid it's this" "no, you're stupid it's that"... seriously, you all sound fucking retarded... a bunch of bickering pussies - this post is totally gay. The movie was entertaining - it's not meant to be a fucking Oscar award winner you unjustifiably arrogant delusional fucking neanderthals... it's a fuckin retarded movie about illegal street racing - grow up losers... enjoy the movie for it's aesthetic appeal or don't... if you're inclined to indulge yourselves in "debating" whether or not the technical merits of the 'film' were janky you're a goddamn idiot... all of ya. Fucking morons.|
|pussy movie for cocksuckers!!get a real car and run it a long distance and see where that little piece shit is,far behind kissing ass when you're a head with your dick stuck in thier mouths pulling them!!heard all the brags of the little shitty cars and then when it come to racing,they lost against my 4.6L top modded T-Bird!!I just changed the heads,intake,coils,TB,MAF,and set of headers with exhaust,they had no chance even in a mile or 1/4 mile!!MOVIE WAS BULLSHIT!!|
|wow almost 5 years and this things still going. here's to keeping this topic alive!!|
|ok i got this off a 2f2f website on how they got the flame out of the exhaust. They disabled one of the pistons from moving which let the air/fuel mixture go straight to the exhaust pipe. They then used a sparkplug to ignite that.|
|This is SO funny. I love you guys for posting it!!|
|ok u suckers all think it sucks well i won my first r33 skyline by pinks and im only 18 u all better grow up|
|dat fire from da pipes iz called da nitrouse purse the purse comes in diffrent colors or mixed im a underground racer i drive a mitsubushi eclipse gsx and i got all my parts from japan and one night on a straight away hit da nos and shit got me 2 214 miles an hour|
|to make fýre come out your exhsaust you need to purchase a mýsfýrýng system It stops turbo lag and only happens when you shýft go look ýt up on google|
|you can tell your all dumb kids...as for myself born and raised in america...drive american cars including a 1970 plymouth gtx if you don't want to support your country then maybe you should move to the country your cars are built|
|IM THE JUGGERNAUGHT BITCH! superhonda.com|
|I REALLY NEED EXACT DETAILS ON VANS 1970 CHARGER like how to rebuild it, the movie wasnt great... but the car was very pretty and i am going to try and rebuild it for a carshow, but nowhere online has detailed enough explanations of the car. thx... anyone who can help me out email me please. maybe when i build it ill give you credit??? thanks alot Sean|
|my car is a 2006 mustang gt...it spits flames when it redlines...it has a straight pipe exhaust...it's just backfire caused by the uneffeciency of an internal combustion engine...its not a big deal...it looks cool...350z's aren't fast...my mustang stock beat my friend's modded...skylines and evos and stis are fast, but they are boosted...a supercharged mustang will outrun an evo...ferraris use v-8s as well...americans can build cars that run fast on the track, but we love the drag strip. you guys need to learn to spell the british have bad teeth and we beat them in the war of 1776 (and saved you in WWII)|
|I raced from 1958 until 1972, I had a Chevy convertible 348 c.i. 335 h.p. high performance all the way from chevrolet. Always turned in mid 13s, a 1967 camaro 396.375 h.p. mid to low 13s and two 1967 super yenko camaros 427,c.i. one 4 speed one auto. low 13s. There were many other cars turning in 13s also. especially the hemis and the boss fords. Check the rcord books if you like.. Thnak You|
|u americans know nothing about real cars you think that a car is something that uses a whole tank of petrol just to go down the to shop. i own a 91 silvia with a rb26dett and it can beat my uncles 350 big block corvette with ease so i think you need to get a grip on the world and realise that jap cars are the best cars there are and they are leaving the dinosaur cars in the past|
|i have to admit i did like the black 70 charger with the butterfly's comen out the bonnet but the sky line was way better then that!!!!!!!!|
|i hav to admit the sky line was good but the 70 charger with the butterflys commen out of the bonnet kicked ass don ya recon?|
|This discussion = teh gay|
|well all im gonna say is i own a 69 camaro and its not a bb, but its fuckn quik. some imports are nice but there is too much history and soul in a "classic". i will admit that it fishtails like in the movie but its STILL a classic for a reason. for all those people who think that imports, your forgetting one thing, those guys who drive them envy all of us (who own muscle cars) and they hate us b/c we hav them and they dont. so i embrace them b/c without that anoying ass sound of a sorry excuse of an exhaust system i wouldnt feel the need to smile and laugh when they look at me with such envy and jealousy. so thanks guys! it just makes my car sooo much more fun. plus u get quality ass in a muscle car. so good luck with those lil cars guys, hit me up in 40 yrs and let me know if its even remotely close to "classic"|
|U Fuck up people...muscles have great power but their handling is horrible..no matter what u do!...now ricers as u dumb fucks call it they have the handling and with the proper amount of money the power to beat a muscle car in a quarter mile or anyother type of race u throw at it.|
|fuck this movi is cool|
|it does suck very much.it like a peace of crap|
|Wow 4 years later and there is still people flapin gover a gay ass movie get alife drive your cars and enjoy life dont bother fighting with people who dont know shit ........ anyhitng can be done weather or not its righ or wrong ......... JUST DRIVE|
|I love muscle cars and i love imports. I currnetly own a 88 crx that runs 10.30 ish ET yes there are alot of muscle cars out there that run that but not many i love smoken a v8 with half the cylenders. LOVE IT. anyway for all the rednecks I bet you did'nt know that most american cars are made in japan. DO SOME RESEARCH IF YOU doNT BELIVE. anyway the movie did suck but it seems to be fun to watch every once and a while.|
|I seen the movie years ago, and I still love it|
|Quote......All I can say is, this whole EGO PROBLEM thing that people have with what nationality a car is, is just a fucking a joke!
LET ME CORRECT ALL YOU FAGGOTS OUT THERE!
First of all, the Mistubishi EVO is a 206kw ALL WHEEL DRIVE vehicle that does 13 seconds on the quarter in STOCK FORM!
Now a V8 dinosaure junk piece of shit NEVER EVER EVER came close to a 13 second bracket in stock form, only in highly modified form!
So to all those white trash dickheads out there that like AMERICAN PIECE OF UGLY SHIT, well, that just says a lot about what you know about cars.
ALMOST ALL turbo 4s if not all, are kicking the arse off V8 muscle.
Im from australia and the most powerfull V8 street car is the HOLDEN (GENERAL MOTORS) 300kw/400horsepower 5.7L V8.
Now that thing does 14s on the quarter, and 0-100km/h in 6 seconds. THATS FUCKING SHIT TIMES!
compare that to a 180kw (245hp) MR2 TURBO which does 13's stock form, and see who wins.
every other V8 was only producing 180kw (245hp), e.g GM HOLDEN COMMODORE VS, VT etc.
This whole ignorant view that v8's are king is a fucking joke cause it's bullshit, JAP CARS DONT NEED NITROUS, they just want nitrous to make it go faster, something wrong with using nitrous?
ALL YOU COCKS OUT THERE THAT LIKE V8 muscle white trash DONK ugly shitboxes can go shuv it up your arses......
ok i wouldnt have been as agressive and bad mouthed as this person but basicly if i was to post this is what id say. just for the sake of argument if you were to take a mitsi lancer with 400hp and pair it up with a V8 musle also with 400hp geus who'd win ehhhh the car with 2 tonnes less weight "the lancer" and also the only reson that V8 muscles are considered fast is because all the americans are too ignorant to drive anything below 3 litres and also 1 thing i dont like about the fast and furious seiries is that the film trys to make 90 mph look fast by showing the spedo always doing 90 when in actual fact iv been in cars were i come from that race round little country lanes at speeds in exess of 130mph (with the possibility of oncoming trafic whats the danger when youve got 8 lanes on each side of the road????? none
(Editor's notes: Blah blah blah...Who cares?)
|Cars??? Grow some balls and buy a truck. I own a souped up Chevrolet 4x4 that can hang with many of the wannabe ricers in my area and kick ass off-road. Try out running me when I have a 35" BFGoodrich tire parked on top of your little toy car.|
|I have a rubber-band I use to snap myself in the ass and it makes me go really fast (faster than all your cars combined). I also hang a zippo from my ass and when I fart it shoots flames. Despite what some of you might think I had a V-8 ( I was thirsty) and I'm packin' a lot of cubic-inches, but I still corner like you would'nt beliveve. When I race in foriegn countries I'm actually faster, I think it has something to do with the currency-exchange. Oh yeah, size does matter, just ask your mom.
p.s. grow-up... I know I will.
(Editor's notes: This person came here via a Google search for "DIY+modifications+for+2004+Kia+Rio". Yikes.)
|im a 17 year old girl with a nissan 240 sx, and a lancer evo 8. my evo is my all time favorite and i get shit everyday from all the faggish boys around here driving their daddies american muscle. i have nothing against american muscle and i think quite a few of them kick ass. i just think they need to set their egos down and stop trying to race little stock civics with a spoiler and a fart can with mommies mustang GT. hondas are made to last ,not race... put em away little import jackoffs... unless u hold some record... then dont pretend to be a 4 (or 6) cylinder with 375 hp. stick with ur 180 range! some "ricers" can be fast, some arent. my evo can pull on close to anything around here... however, my 240 isnt a race car, its got the brembos, the custom cat back, and a whole lot more, and my little KA could pull the little stock civics, but i dont waste my time! drop an SR20 and yeah... its a race car. so my point is... boys, lets not be little pussies. get a fast car and race it, get a slow car and make it fast.... who really cares what u drive, its just goes to show... it doesnt matter how big it is... its what u do with it and how u do it that counts!|
|ANYONE THAT READ THIS IS STUPID!!!! AND A WASTED OF TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O AND RICERS RULE!!!!!BITCHES|
|look i agree with who ever it was that said that it was just a series of movies ... and i personaly think they were all entertaining although far fetched, but you all fail to realize the general public doesn't know about cars much less care whats correct or not .. they just wanted to see a bunch of fast looking cars with girls. for the most part the movie simply encompasses the (unknowing) US view of street racing but unless they're out there they really don't know. so it is just that entertainment .... just let it go!!! i mean getting mad at the movie is like being brue lee (were he alive) watching a fighting movie and getting mad because everyone isn't as good is he is! most people don't know about fighting so when shown a fight clip its just entertaining so enough with the name calling its dumb|
|oh and just one more thing as far as the old school muscle goes they are great cars no argument about that but if the argument is based around stock specs a mid 90's to current boosted 4 cylender is (for the most part) going to beat an old school muscle car "stock for stock", the fight comes down, not to the who has more horse power stock but to the who can tune their car better... a great example is the corvette z06 and the viper ... both cars have been battling for decades but they remain in the same class but how is it a v8 keeps up with a v10 WITH MORE DISPLACEMENT?!!!!!! its easy: good engineering beats power anyday, so it is possible for a civic to smoke a vette if properly tuned!!! it is also quite a feat as well but still very possible, if you really want a challenge just think... if you took a 95 civic and a 2005 mustang and raced them stock then yeah the mustang IS going to smash the civic, but interms of what was spent you take the 20-30k spent to get the stang and put the same money into puchasing and tuning a cheap, easy to buy, has lots of parts in almost all import magazines and catalogs, dime a dozen civic, and if tuning is correct you'll destroy that same mustang!!! its a fact and if you take the money spent on a new nissan 350z (20-30k again) and put it into an older say cuda, stang, or just about anything from gm from before 1995 (especially anything with the famous 350 small block) and more than likely, unless your up against one of the japanese twin turbos, you'll beat most 4 cylenders out there boosted or not.. as far as best money spent, unless you're well off, the newer the car the more you have to base an argument on "stock for stock" specs. as for people who take the route of using a less expensive but very tunable cars, better cars are the results of better tuners, all the horse power and torque in the world don't garuntee a win! for instance a 1000 hp (exagerration) stang on street tires all motor probly isn't going to beat a 600 hp civic with a nitrous set up on drag tires at the track, the whole issue of traction is evident here! but that again comes down to the knowledge of ones car, what you're up against and how to maximize your perfomance, the real reason civics are beaten more often is because they are some of the easiest cars to come by .. you cant throw a rock without hitting a civic, so statistiacly speaking, yeah if theres more of them its more than likely they'll be beaten more often, but like it or not a civic is probly one of the easiest cars to tune, the only cars id say are even close, when it comes to buying parts, would be a stang ... one of the most popular american cars, but by the same token stangs probly have just as many losses over all as civics do on a grand scale but i bet stangs and civics over all probly have the most races and racers on the scene .... before you comment on your rival please look into your competition first, there are only a few intelegent posts on this page and id hate the tuner world to be made to look ignorant due to simple laziness. (supra driver and lover) and just for the record i love all street racers the scene the ego and ALL the cars associated with it.. tell ya friends! mad man ouuuuuuuttttt!|
|this thread started back in 2003 why the hell r u people still posting? some 3rd world country seeing the movie 4 years later is it? each has there pros n cons but honda makes the worlds 2nd best power to CC ratio engines and track times arent about peak power|
|rotary will kick all v8 ass any day I have a video on my myspace of a 3 rotor engine camery drag car doing 6.77 sec@ 320 miles an hour beat that piece of shit v8 lovers a v8 will never ever touch a rotary.|
|ok idiots the flame thrower wasnt done by computer you just go in to the local turbo shop and ask for a flame thrower kit for about $100 its caused by a button and fuel goin to the exhaust you press the button and the flames come out with a mixture of
Co2 and petrolum and yes i would know because i have it installed in my car so get ya fukin shit sorted.
(Editor's notes: Heh, if I went to my local "turbo shop" and asked for a flame thrower kit, they would laugh me off the property.)
|Who Ever You are u dick head editor, if u do ur own reserch you will see that american cars are NOT recycled, for one we never started using recycling tell at least 1990, so dickhead get all ya facts right!!! And Why bring ya brother into the topic its your site you just want some back up caus you know ur wrong, Do you know watch race wars and be there? you will see there are some american muscles that would smoke anything you own!
(Editor's notes: I don't know why I'm bothering, but here goes...According to Steel.Org, all steel products contain at least 25% recycled steel. All steel products, which would include cars. I have no idea why you think this is a negative thing, since recycled steel is just as "good" as virgin steel. Now I'm not the steel expert that you obviously are, but keep in mind that you don't just melt down a bunch of juice cans and pour out a car. Scrap steel is melted in a furnace along with virgin steel, impurities are boiled off, then the metal is doped with various elements (oxygen, carbon, silicon, nickle, etc.) to obtain the grade of steel needed. According to Canadian Steel Producers, steel is one of the most recycled materials on the planet, can be recycled as many times as necessary without loosing durability and the environmental (as well as financial) benefits of steel recycling are huge. Now I'm not sure why I'm wasting time here, but at least someone hopefully will learn from this. No idea what you are talking about regarding my brother, and yes, I often attend "race wars" (here in reality it's called "the track"...). Since I'm actually old enough to drive I even take my cars down the strip now and again...)
|u lot r fukin sad man da film brilliant who cares if sum ov da stunts fake lets c u make a beta film
(Editor's notes: Um, what?)
|OMFG!!!!! Some of you guys are some dumb idiots! I think 2f2f did not suck! I agree that the cars of 2f2f is not really realistic, but if they used STOCK CIVICS AND SOME OTHER STUPID STOCK CARS, YOU GUYS WOULD SAY THAT THE MOVIE SUCED BECAUSE THE CARS DID NOT GO FAST ENOGH! the use of no2 in 2f2f is not realistic! and the flames out of the exhaust pipes, are made out of no2 purges, where you pull a button and it looks really cool! and some of you are so damn stupid you think an stock MR2 does 13 on the qarter! IM SHOCKED! MAN! And i've got an 71' dodge challenger, witch is just one year older than the one on the movie (70' challenger, with 426 HEMI engine, stock 400+ BHP) which is fully able to kick some japanese ass any time! my point is that much of the movie is made on a computer and, if has to because otherwise it would be really boring! we would not get "the speed kick"!|
|Wow some dumb people in here! I run a 1998 eagle talon, 1996 civic SI and also a 1979 z28 camaro. when i do run a richer gas IE rase fule throu both falmes do and will come out and no its not because its tuned wrong trust me me and my father own and run a track and dyno try comeing down to wakemen ohio and showing me im wrong. oh and do me a favor cheack out bushur racing some time|
|u all suck if u say the fast and the furious sucked because it is one of the best racing movies out ther!!!!!|
|The Aussie built 1971 FORD XY GT PHASE 3 4 door sedan was running 13.5's ( stock ) back then. Way ahead of any rice burner, and twice as heavy, no turbo's no injection just power V8...so stop flappin ya gums little girls...
(Editor's notes: Try making it turn and stop...)
|Buy a real car "AMERICAN CAR"
not a pepsi recycle can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Editor's notes: Huh? If you are implying that American cars are some how not made of recycled materials, I think you will be in for a surprise if you actually looked it up.)
|it was bullshit one of the biggest pieces of crap i have ever seen period.|
|American > Foreign. All there really is too it. I think, if you like a foreign car go live in that foreign country with the people that produce em. Because our economy suffers cuz little POS's go out and buy civics and accords when they should be buying their american counter-parts (cavaliers and taurus etc.). Because I don't care what you say, at the end of the day your money is going overseas into japans pocket. Aside from that here is another subject to ponder - if you put a power adder like a twinturbo on a 4 cyl. ... think about what that could do if you put a twinturbo on a v8 ... I doubt that a 4 cyl with a twin will output 650+ HP.... American Muscle wins again.|
|goddamnit...tryed to stay away but had to come back to see the straight line and displacement obsessed and idiotic 7 year old's that sit for ages by their computers for somebody to post so they can fanboy their favorite cars by screaming obceneties at people who don't like them and claim that some expensive and fast car is theirs (even though nobody really gives a shit) because they figured that if they claimed to have a 12 second evo then everybody's gonna think they're cool and wanna be their friends. I'm sure i'm gonna get bored in a few months and say these over again but i'm bored so i'll say them anyway. Number of cylinders and displacement does not determine how well designed an engine is and how much power it'll make, and the 4 cylinder vs v8 argument is pointless and is never going nowhere since it's based on personal preference...some people high revs, some want torque, some want lower weight and even a popular reason is insurance. And i'm not biased to any car company but the idiots going "i can still beat a honda" need to actually learn something, passing on the "hondas are slow and it takes thousands of dollars just to make them moderately fast" stereotype is just amplifying your stupidity.|
|i drive a 97 Ford Probe GT and it was recently stolen by a mexican which later was caught and returned my car stripped of all its parts. However, I would still smoke a tricked-out Civic like a bag of bin laden weed.|
|I am stationed in Iraq and I can't believe I just spent an hour reading these postings. Some of you are by far the most ignorant people I have ever heard about. I can't cpmplain however, I have certiainly laughed at all of the postings which around here makes things a little better. To the editor...did you stage this site? I agree that I hate to think it is possible that there are people out in the world that are so uneducated. Weight vs. Mobility- one of the oldest debates in history probably. My tank produces up to 1,500 hp with a turbine engine (similar to a jet) and I would hate to think of the quarter mile times even with that much horsepower. But then, it does well at moving 69 tons quickly enough to get our enemies faster than they get us. That's 138,000 pounds for some of you out there, or perhaps the weight of about 69 street racers would be easier to understand? Your absoulutely right, the movie really SUCKED man, but over hear, I watched it out of pure boredom. Maybe Uncle Sam can get me "steam" for my tank, too funny really. One word....."wow".|
|yeah finaly someone said somehting you f ucking fags are so gay go get a life bitching about a movie that was made three years ago who fucking cares it was a movie that was made over three years ago for fuck sakes its played on tbs now thats how old it is so why dont you guys just all shut the fuck up and stop this fucking forum fucking bitch ass nerds go watch star wars
(Editor's notes: The ironing is delicious...)
|you guys are all gay im doingthis project for school and my teacher told me to go on this site to getinfo i find all this stupid stuff get a life you nerds all you people are so fucking stupid man go get a life|
|FUCKING HOMOS THIS MOVIES WAS MADE THREE YEARS AGO STOP FUCKING BITCHING ABOUT IT DONT YOU NERDS HAVE SOMEHTING BETTER TO DO FUCK GO GET A LIFE OR GO WATCH STAR WARS OR SOMETHING YOU FAGS 69 BITCHES|
|Ok first of all, It's pretty sweet that this pointless blog has been going on for over 3 years! I just want to congratulate everyone who has posted their thoughts and opinions about Ricers and V8's and American Muscle vs Japcans... its all very cool... in fact... it's so cool that it only took me 16 beers and 3 hours to read it all... that being said... I think we've all seen the Movie by now and know that the flames were Computer Animated... it says so in the Special Features of the DVD... we can also all probably agree that it is possible, slightly dangerous and very pointless in reagards to speed and power to get flames to shoot out of your exhaust... yes it's cool and I'm sure no matter what you drive if you are more focoused on the cool factor than the speed/traction factor you are destined to lose most of your races anyway... I do have a few comments for all the I-4 vs V8 arguments... All cars can be fast... if you have a little money, a little time, and a little knowledge about how a car makes power you can put anycar against any car and 9 times out of 10 win. I've seen Camaro's spank just about everything known to man... but I've also seen a Dodge Neon SRT-4 beat a 6.0 Pontiac GTO with 421whp... the point of the story is that with the right amount of time, money and research most of you ARE right... just quit typing about all this shit and get back to racing... with all of you spending your free time in here talking the REAL racers are kicking my ass and I miss winning!|
|Wow there is a lot of stupidity on here, the guy talking about the evo being a 13 second car and the 5.7 austrailian Holden being the most powerfull factory V8 is a tool. Most ealry 70's mopar was throwing down close to 600 RWHP. 60-70's muscle cars weighed a lot. Newer imports weigh much less so they are going to be faster cause if half of you had a brain you'd now HP to Weight ratio is where you get quickness from. If an american V8 didn't have all the torque they produce and could hook up stock all the little FWD and AWD rice burners would be no competition. the funny thing is I burn alot of rice with my '88 Grand marquis which is a grandmas car, weighs over 2 tons and only produces about 160 HP. My D150 truck smokes a lot of Rice as well Both have reliable american V8's that are known to be able to go well over half a million miles. the truck has a LA based 318 and the Merc. has a 302 Windsor in it. So you fans of imported rice that talk lots of shit about V8's need to get a clue, while you wind your I4 banger to 7 grand I'll pull by you in 2nd at 3 grand making the same amount of power. there are good 4 cylinder cars out there, and I'm not calling any car a POS just learn your shit before you compare your I4 cylinder to a V8|
|HEY it was a movie since when are action movies based on reality?????????|
|HEY it was a movie since when are action movies based on reality?????????
And to that Australian jerk many American cars run 13's stock and some in the 12's. What Jap cars could do that 40 years ago???
(Editor's notes: How many American cars 40 years ago could turn and stop?)
|to get nitro-glycerin vapour out of the side you need a kit to blow the excessive nitrous out of the side and a special custom side panel for the door panel or where ever else you want to put it
(Editor's notes: Huh?)
|OK ALL YOU RICER HONDA TOYOTA LOVIN MORONS HERES A REAL CAR FOR YOU RED AND BLACK 1983 MUSTANG 5.0 V8 4 BARREL DUAL EXHAUST OF COURSE ITS A 302 18" CHROME RIMS 425 HP 457 TORQUE 12 SECOND CAR TOTALLY REBUILT BUT THE CHASSIS
(LETS SEE IF YOUR LITTLE HONDA CIVIC CAN BEAT THIS WITHOUT YOUR LITTLE BOTTLE NITRO GLYCERIN!)
(Editor's notes: You're kidding, right? Nitroglycerin?)
|Mhmmmm i dunno nuthin about cars but if ur watchin a movie u know i think u should think about the ppl that in the movie too..<3 Ludacris <3 so fine but i think u should watch other movies u know. u dont liket he first one then don watch the second wat dont u understand bout dat =] ok? so if u don like 2 fast 2 F. then don watch tokyo drift! which wuz good stuff cuz im japanese ! n i wuz there wen they took it hahahah bow wow oh yea theres gunna b a Fast n the Furious 4 too !!!!! yeaaa n the ppl that say they like the movie there awesome sick ppl|
|me again i forgot to say I LUV THE MOVIE even if someparts were a lil bit fake|
|I Thought so to it was s**ty|
|i think it sucked becouse they didnt build a car and it was bad becouse they reced really nice musle cars!!|
|2 fast 2 furious was ok but not the greatest racing movie ever is pretty fucking fake come to think of it. ive been to real street racing events, illegal, and none of the shit that happened in that movie happened there, and for all the dumbasses out the who think that thats steam coming out of the side of the car, YOURE FUCKING STUPID! why the hell would anyone mount a fucking tank of steam in their car to blow it out the sides? ITS NOS, going through the purge valve of the side of the body kits or top of the hood. get a fucking toolbag, some knowledge of cars, and fucking stop posting stupid ass messages on here. for god sakes im 13 and i have more know how on cars and what they can do, than some fucknuts on here.|
|wow first of all to the dumbass up there who was from holland or whatever you need to STFU. just bc there arent any v8's in your country that cant pull 13's stock doesnt mean they doint exist. COME TO AMERICA YOU DUMB FUCK AND WE'LL SHOW YOU WHATS UP. american muscle
the 06 gto's have 6 liter v8's. idk what that computes to in your countrys measure of engine size but that a beefy motherfucker. 11's stock. easily. BONE STOCK
(Editor's notes: Too ignorant to waste a comment on...ah damn, I just commented...)
|A few people are intelligent enough to restrain themselves from the cray put-downs. The movie itselt was entertaining.....key word.....entertainment!!!! I agree most of it is HollyWeirds Magic, but hey what movie is not. As far as cars go, I have A Mustang and A Mazda MX6 KLZE. Even though they both spit out over 300 horses each, the Mustangs torque kills the 6's. The 6 is more fun to drive, plus I built it. And to those people that dont know, most of the ricers are very Americanized (is that a word or what). My MX6 is made in Michigan, designed and built by Mazda/Ford (Auto Alliance). Pull the radiator out...it is embossed with Ford's Logo!!! Even though I hate Hondas, I bet most of you Accord, Civic, and Acura lovers have made in Marysville, Ohio in your door jam? Oh yeah, back to the point, the third movie Tokyo drift.....well, again more posers. But as the editor noted this is about his thoughts and opinions--respect them. Overall, al three movies were over the top, but entertaining. Hey, Ill age myself, most of you probably cant remember the movie Corvette Summer, or even Smokey and the Band-it movies. Not all out racing movies, but times have changed, and so have cars. I love American muscle as well as what I call my rebadged Ford.....MX6. if you love cars, youll like them both. As far as the movies go, the first two made a few cents. The buying public has the last laugh, regardless what any of us think. God Bless Michael J. Fox---Fight the Fight brother----Im 35 and this f'n disease is killing me!!!|
|wow... just... wow. i was looking for something on google and stumbled across this. Just...wow.. I do believe every person that has posted on here is retarded. i'm just going to leave it at that, because arguing on the internet is really stupid. ///M Power for the win, bitches.|
|HAHA! well if a v8 runs a 13 and an EVO can run a 13sec 1/4 why bother with the v8? If a straight 4 turbo can do that time its kinda dumb how a v8 can't get any faster cuz its gotta push all that weight. Nice cars in 2F2F but fuck the dumb paint jobs and stickers neons and the Skylinen GTR R34 should have been the hero car, shows how much yanks knows about perfomance cars. EVOs fast but you pust the same amount of time into the GTR, u get 1 hell of a killer. some serious HP. Those cars in 2F2F dont even come close to the 1s in JPN. In JPN they got Street GTRs running 9 sec down the 1/4.|
|I am writing this in reference to the poster about V8 muscle never being able to hit 13s stock. I believe the supercars of the 60s could hit 13s stock. The Hemi Cuda, Yenko Camaro and Boss Mustang all did it on 40 year old technolgy. Granted those were hard cars to come by back then, (and even moreso today) they still did it on crappy bias ply tires. I did wire up flames on my truck, 2 different systems. It's not just as simple as wiring up some plugs and hoping to get flames. The plugs are wired to another coil. You have to be moving with the engine turning, when you press the switch, it kills power to your engine coil and routes it to your rear coil. Unburned gas (since the engine is off, but still turning) is pumped through your exhaust and ignited by the spark plug. It will not work with the engine running no matter how rich you make it. The people that say this work are lying. You also cannot have cats. The other system is on my efi, catted truck. I ran propane through a weed burner tip ignited by an electric barbeque starter. The flames are similar to F&F. I had to use a lock solenoid to get this to work electronically. I have a flak jacket strapped around the propane tank in case my check valves malfunction.|
|FUCK THAT MOVIE SUCKED BITCH|
|wtf r uz all talkin bwt! omg shut up will u goin on bwt noz n steam n shit omg get a grip will uz! 2 fast 2 furious rules! who cares if the stunts werin real i dnt. Just as long as Paul Walker was in it tat make it 4 me hahahahahhaahhahaahhahahahahhahahahahhahhahahahahahhaahahahha dickheads! xxxxxxxxxxxxx|
|HAHAHAHEHEHA!!! Are you kidding me? I've wasted over an hour of my life reading this ignorance... and I'm only half way through the B.S. (Was entertaining for a while, now I just feel sorry for the editor.) I skipped over the last 10,000 messages, so pardon me if I'm interrupting. "" Sigh. I just don't know anymore. As long as there isn't a 3rd one, I guess we're OK... "" LOL... Enter... "Tokyo Drift" Two years later... the third stupid movie is on DVD.This is still a discussion??? WHY??? 1st off... This movie was retarded... and I've seen it more than once. A glutton for idiocy, I suppose. The first one was better, but not by much. Tokyo drift? Nigga Please. What were they thinking? These movies are comedies with fast cars. I especially liked the Hazzard County, Yenko/boat jump at the end... AAAAAAGH HAHAHA! That guy is my new hero... I wish I could be that cool... Riiiiight. For all the 10 year olds that enjoyed this Duke Boy nonsense. When you grow up, and your spelling gets a little better... Check out Steve McQueen in "Bullit"... or maybe the ORIGINAL "GONE IN SIXTY SECONDS" Although the remake was pretty cool (nice rides)... it's nothing like the original. 2nd... Who cares about the flames? Waste of time and effort! Just another stupid effect in another stupid F&F. 3rd... I own a clean, low-mileage 1994 Mazda MX-6 (my driver w/minor mods) & a sweeeet (highly modded & lowered) black/black 1994 LT-4 Corvette Love them both. Don't know about you folks... but, I'm into cars. It doesn't matter where they originated. mid 90's RX-7's - ANY Corvette - mid 90's Supra's - '67 & '68 Shelby Mustang's - Old HEMI Cuda's & Road Runners... All extremely wicked... in my book anyways. Although, due to my nationality, and the decade I grew up in... I tend to lean a bit towards good old American muscle. Lastly... More displacement = more torque --- PERIOD! And for the record... NOTHING... beats the sound of a BIG American V8! Can you say BALLS? And for all the JDM / America haters out there... How about a !! STOCK !! 2006 Corvette ZO6 or FORD GT vs. a !! STOCK !! Japanese anything?... Road course, or 1/4 mile. I'd love to say more, but I have to go drill holes in my tail pipes and dig up some old spark plugs... hehehe. God-speeds!|
|muscle cars are just fast and good at drag races and sometimes circuit depending on the driver, tuner on the other hand have low hp but is a lot better at cornering and made to be tuned. personally I think all of the cars have potential, well most.|
|compairing V8's to four cylinders is like comparing apples to banna's. Bolth can be good, ive seen some realy mean bored and stroked v8's as well as the turbo'd and nos'ed 4 bangers, somthing more interesting is a dodge chalenger at a car show last weekend. Had a great big v8 with a blower sitting on it and had nos as well sitting right next to it was a yellow honda crx with much more money put into the engine and being a fan of tuners and muscle alike i still wouldnt dream that the rex would beat the chalenger. im young and i see the new tuners to be very similar to the hot rod era of the past. we own quite a few cars and i dont claim to know everything the power to weight ratio is important as well as cornering and traction. we have a 58 chevy belair with a 350 v8 stock and 72 chevy c/10 also a v8 and the same overdrive transmision as well as a ford galacy 500 with a 302 also known as a 5.0 and the belair eats the truck alive why its simply lighter and the truck has no weight in the rear end and peels the galaxy 500 big old convertable boat gets them bolth even with a smaller ci engine now my personal car is an 86 300zx its like a 183 cubin inch or about 2900 cc and is concidered a 3 liter v6 and quite frankly it is stock and it isnt the turbo model and the 80's z are not as good as either the eirlier 280 or the later 300's and it eats our truck our belair our nova alive the .0 ford is about equal why weight and gearing now say you put it up against a stock 454 im none to sure i could win give me a curvy road and i just might. put it on the drag line and i dont think its gonna do it. i love my little six banger and i plan on making it lighter puting a twin turbo in it and geting the intake of a nissan pathfinder to get more air flow. dont argue it will fit needs some machining and some extra holes filled as well as a hood scoop. even when all that is dont it wont sound like a v8 not that glorious heart quickening rumble if i put 10 grand im my engine and 10 grand in a big block v8 stuck bolth of them in two identical cars the v8 would win you use your car to its strength my is handling and exeleration the power to weight ratio is ausome my curb weight makes corners a breaze but i love the rumble of a motor so big they have to start it with a big drill on the line of the drag stip
(Editor's notes: If I've said it once, I've said it a thousand times. It is not about which engine is better, and never was.)
|also to my above post i can send pictures to those who ask its a real emal adress haha feel free to spam it as well its also my spam address im curently saving money for an LS2 engine that i plan to cram in my other Z i know it wont fit but we have lots of tools and time its going in there some how. hows that for a contridiction a pure japanese sports car with some american muscle haha gonna be one bad ride|
|Go buy a JDM Subaru, I take my twin turbo out and whup all yo ass, you all with your damn mosquito civics and rotisseries. Little 16 year olds getin daddy 2 go buy u a skyline.. yeah u can drive fast in a straight line.. My other ka is a stock 84 Corona and i kick all the teeny bopper ass thru winding sections of road cos I know how to drive, seein a teeny drivin daddys evo thru da corner with more body roll than a fat chick and wonderin how my 1.7 Carby kickin their ass then seein them later down the motorway with a turtle evo haha gimme a break
whether y'all can spell or not.. basically the fact is all your base are belong to us.
Go the Boxers!
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|oh man.... with the exception of like two of you, your all retarded 1. I know from experience that sometimes a car running an open exhaust will shoot a big ass flame out it's ass in between shifts, this is caused by unburned gas lighting off in the exhaust 2. sometimes, a very well tuned turbo rotary (I've never even heard of this happening in a piston engine) WILL have a blue flame at the muffler; not some big ass rocket, but a small flame this is caused by many different things, but basically, it's only gonna happen at full throttle under load, only if it's boosted, and only if it's squeezing (aka N20) I personally know someone who has a car that does this, and it's not from a shitty tune; this thing smokes bike's on the freeway oh, and fuck underglow, body kits, wings, chrome rims, nasty paint, and pretty much everything from 2f2f it's all ricey crap from autozone that adds weight and attracts 13 year old boys|
|I dont under stand all of u guys.all cars have something great about them v8 and 4 cylinders are both cool rides. I have both 87 mustang gt and 95 mitsubishi eclipse both tuned.|
|dude this movie was the sicks movie that i had ever seen in movie theart and all you fages need to get a life..........................................................................................|
|the nissan skyline is one of the sicks cars in the wourld and if you talk s#it about it i will k i l l y o u you fag a$$.
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|THAT ******* SONGS ********* THE ***** BEST|
|You need to show more of the skyline because its an ace car and speedyand i dont care what you say about what i have just said|
|hey not rice i know this is a late post, but still. I used to live in florida. i've been in miami, orlando, and like every other major city and guess what... every time i see a ricer or wanna be racer driving a wanna be race car you know what i do? i follow them inconspituosly(pardon spelling) until they park at a walmart or something. then i pour airplane paint stripper on their car in a profane pattern and then i take out some homemade thermite, magnese ribbon and a torch and put a half dollar sized amount on the hood directly over the engine block and axle, light it and watch it burn all the way through to the ground, then i drive away.
(Editor's notes: Yeah, right...)
|can't believe i had the time to read half of this whole thread and i realized that there's a lot of honda hating going on here. Seriously people if you don't know what you're talking about just don't talk, 4th fifth and 6th gen civic hatches are great cars to mod due to light weight, 4 wheel independent suspension, great handling and different engines able to fit in the engine bay either with a kit or just bolting in.....it's a mystery with people's hatred of hondas or front wheel drive cars especially mopar fanboys deserting the srt-4 because of it's drive wheels|
|check out norwoods 4000hp integra... you guys are funny when you compare v8's to 4 cylinders.|
|The actual plot and story and the acting sucked. dont deny it. but the cars were cool. it should have been howrs of random car races and crashed. wont that make everyone happy?|
|the EVO in tokyo drift was modified to RWD for the movie just thought ya should know|
|i challenge any1 ere 2 a race (track or street) i dnt care|
|The Film did indeed suck like shit. BUT, what i have to say - people go and try some rotary power, where power to weight is out of the competition - then you'll see those 11s and 10s on the quarter.|
|i own a subaru wrx, lotus and an evo VIII they are tuned 2 perfection with no2, 2 turbos and 1 super charger and dats only my subaru dat i got a month ago the others i have had for 2 years and i won da lotus in a drag race.
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|i own a subaru wrx, a nissan skyline gtr and a lotus and they are tuned to perfection i could kick ass if i found any decent people to race but you all suk so.... and all of my cars av no2|
|Well Tokyo Drift was alrite i guess. some good unrealistic action movie scenes and some sorry ass drifting scenes. the one that cracks me up the most was when that redneck was with riding with the girl in her rx8 and they were going up the mountains pathways following those other cars. it seems like she was just cruising and gliding while drifting with no effort whats so ever hahah. i still cant believe some redneck was the main character...y'all whats drifting? lmfao stupid ass movie directors trying to get more white audience into the drifting scene. i was in the movie theater and i keep hearing these kids oooing and aaahing over some "madd tyte jaay deeem emmm cars yo".. pathetic. the room was full of little ricers thinking they are all badass cuz theyre going to see some car movie and thinking that they are into tuning cars...stupid ass bitches pisses me off...this one kid sitting behind me was talking like he knew about drifting and shit saying the evo was chosen to be the main drift car since awd handles better than rwd ahahah stupid ignorant cunt and everyone around him seemed amazed of his knowledge in cars and were praising him for his comments. after leaving hte movie we saw stupid ass cunts trying to swerve in and out of traffic endangering the general public just to prove that they were (wannabe) racers. to top it off they were all mad dogging each other at every stop light or stop signs hahahahhaahahha|
|i just watched all three fast and furious movies and they all are equally similar -.-" all have some good scenes which are of course orchestrated - not real... hence the disclaimer don't try this at home -.-" geeeeeeeeeez and all have their equally bad points. and for Carlos G - dude... that orange car was not a ferrari it was just a mazda rx 7 with a nice bodykit -.-" and most of the cars were fairlady Z's which... imo are FAT FAIRLADIES VERY FAT lol... but they used them for the RWD since it is a drift movie after all. And did anyone else notice the real king of drift in the movie? Keiichi Tsuchiya? i thought that was a cool cameo. he owns an acura nsxR with his own custom suspension. he's a dude who puts a lot of work into his car O_o and yes... it was a nissan engine in that '67 ford. did anyone also notice the similarity in that mountain race scene and the one in initial d? the last race where the leader of the emperor racing team wipes out? O_o yeah... similar isn't it? movies lack originality these days... and who else hated bow wow... yeah... thought so. have fun racing ... just don't hurt anyone else... and yourselves... you freaks! lol j/k take it to the track... it'll live longer... so will you.|
|Movie woz teh roxorz! To all of the original morons flaming a good movie.. It doesnt matter how they portrayed street racing... does dracula walk around at night biting people? NO! but it made a good fucking movie! This movie would suck to a little ricer head who cant afford neon underbody lights and a real flame thrower system.. stfu.. If we could all really fly around like superman the movie would be boring as its now imitating how things "REALLY" are... all in all the movie kic't lotz -o- ass... and FF3 was kick ass too.. the idiots who shit on that movie as well probly cant drift or cant afford to.. awesome long thread :)|
|Yo i juz watch tokio drift! I luv da kar scenes and da orange ferrari dat da chinese guy drove was tyte. How much do one of those thing costs??? i want one when i get my drivers lisen!!!!! my bro has a honda civic wit fully built motor, tirbo kit, 3 1/2 inch muffler, cold air intake system, rims, carbon fiber hood n trunk hes putting in a supercharger kit this weekendt that would eat all u v8 luvers soo fuck off. plus his car is not rice it looks clean and nice and has a jdm theme to it. peace out dawgs. oh and VTEC BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|"dont try and take over me ill wop ya butt no time for auto graths ill do it later or shud i say 20 secends (Editor's note: Um, what? Whoever can figure out what this means wins a cookie...)" OOOO i think iknow what he was trying to say!! auto graths must be the commonly used term "autographs" and secends must be "seconds" wop i usually a racial slur up here, but i guess its whoop or woop he is looking for. if he can really "dust you" in 20 seconds, i feel bad that his car can only run 20's? thats miserable i think my bmx bike can pull a 40 second run. so lets put it all together- he starts out by clearly stating dont try taking me over, maybe hes using a common race term, such as being "overtaken", but in a backwards sense. then he goes on to say that he can beat you in such a speedy fashion that there will be no time for autographs at the end because hes just so fast! then he refers to his own cars speed at a startling 20 second quarter mile (blows the doors off my huffy for sure) and that should be about it. anyways 2f2f was a miserable movie when it comes to the realism aspect. eva was hot. the "evo 7" was actually a lancer oz rally with a body kit, if i remember that far back... i just checked a picture and the exhaust goes to the right, which all evo's run to the left, so it probably was an oz rally with some extensive body work, jdm lights etc. but hey, who cares they made money and we all fell for it, now they released tokyo drift and the first drift scene and race scene were miserably WRONG.. but the american muscle was clearly represented as being superior when a ford mustang circa 1967 with an rb26dett out drifted the vq35tt of DK. wait did i just give a japanese engine code along side a classic american muscle car? SHIT|
|AHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!! This was great for a good laugh. Keep up the exellent work, fellas! (Oh, and Hondas suck....just thought I'd stir the pot a little...).|
|i think the editor doesnt quite know what the hell he's talking, and seems to be CLEARLY bias towards imports. i love the fact that he calls cars form the 60 - 70's cookie cutters. ignorance is bliss.
anyone who argues hp/ liter is a moron. thewre truely is NO replacement for desplacement. as old as the saying is, it is still 100% true.
(Editor's note: From 100 feet, a Chevelle lookes exactly like a Camara which lookes exactly like a fastback Mustang. I have nothing against Muscle cars if you want to go quick in a straight line but I do take issue with those who think that cars that cannot turn or stop and will be outhandled by the average minivan are the pinnacle of automotive excellence. "No replacement for displacement" may be true for making horsepower, but absolute power isn't everything you know. In fact power means nothing without considering the weight of the vehicle.)
|DO ANY OF YOU CHEAP FUCK LITTLE DICKHEADS EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE?
(Editor's note: Do you know how to capitalize?)
|i met some guy at universal studios who was in that movie and i got his autograph. anyway I just want to say that the third one wuz awesome and all of the cars were not some stupid civics. They were mostly evos, skylines and silvias. In the beginning there were actually some muscle cars, but it was weird how that old Monte Carlo was as fast as the viper. Also, the so called steam coming out of the sides of the cars in 2 fast 2 furious is really nitrous coming from a custom purge valve.|
|i know im really late but i got a comment the flame out of the exuhst gives the car a little extra boost so no it doesnt make it faster it just speeds it up and this is on gabe april 6th so thats why|
|To Diabetic duck you claim you research you materil before posting your comments re/your comment onApril 2005 about Mad Maxs biower being fake your very wrong pal Iknow the guy who saved the car from the dump after the movie and can assure you there is nothing fake about that fiddy-one.|
|yeah, and in v8 supercars it is because they are overfuelling when the throttle is snapped shut, they also have really short exhaust systems don't travel all the way to the rear of the car, for anyone who cares. close your eyes and use some creative imagery while considering this statement from Robert Nelson- 'i have an acura integra that is built out the ass'. I don't know what it is like in other parts of the world, but has anyone noticed a resurgence in the amount of riced out (tacky, fake cheap mods) cars on the road?|
|fuck yall prics. i have an acura integra that is built out the ass.The bitch has no nitrus(fuck nitrus) no turbo and it runs 9.72 in a eigth mile. my car shoots a 4 1/2 flame. And one thing a stock dodge viper comes with 500 hp stock dum muther fuckers
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|who posted this site their dicks watch V8 SUPERCARS and see the flames coming out of the exaust u fucking wankers
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|Hands down the absolute best fast and furious yet. it was more realistic, had a better plot and was very very suspensful. i was shreking everytime that guy would drift and hit something. b/c i know for a fact if that was my car the guy would have problems breathing. crashes and situations i thought were very real, and hope the 4th one is just as good. i hope its vin diesel and the kid racing it out in the 4th one.|
|Take it from me if you want "steam" to come out of your hood . Simply plug the thermostat on your rad hose . Mine plugged doing 130km on the highway . Loads of "cool" looking steam to be had for all . Though I never heard any of the passing people tell me I was cool . I don't know why. Steam coming out of your hood is BAD . All I Have to say is watch when your driving after FF3 comes out there is going to be a butt load of "ricers" trying to "drift" their front wheel drive cars into ours .P.S. FF2 sucked balls|
|fast and furiuos was cool 2 fast 2 furiuos was cool to so no body in her has a clue|
|yes the movie was good but in my opioin the 1st one was more acurate to really street racing, and about the hole v8 i4 debate if you look at the price compared to the power to weight ration and the quater times most stock imports acctually lose but if you ran that same v8 on only four cylindars like imports it would be smoked by a long shoot in my opioin most v8 cars really lack in the power to cylindar ratio|
|wth is wrong with you people? it's a friggin movie, kids love it....if you don't like the movie then don't fuckin watch it.....you know how many automotive movies have come out in the last 6 years? less than 6......at least this is a movie that gets new people into the automotive hobby, even if they're ricers they're either gonna get too old for that shit or they're gonna get smarter. i even have a feeling that a lot of people in here got into cars because of the movie and are just bitching because they heard other people bitch about the movie, goddamn you know what a lot of the sponsors of tuner events sell? rice (in your terms)......even universal in using the new fast and the furious movie to sponsor a shitload of drift events and even the d1 championships are gonna be on tv because of them.......the writers/producers of all those movies are fucken geniuses,why? they took something and milked it for all it's worth and made a shitload of money out of it (i bet if any of you was given millions of dollars to promote rice you would) what they did might have been wrong but you can't be a goody goody in the business world. again stfu about the movie and turn off the fuckin tv|
|Blah Blah Blah! What did you all expect from a Fast and Furious movie...a fucking oscar? If it is midly entertaining I will be satisfied. Anyway, thought I would let you all know that I sell flame thrower kits as well as the colorant to turn the flames different colors (heard of chemistry?).|
|ok to all the "STREET RACERS" out der its just a F*U*C*K*I*N*G movie and its good to watch on the largest cinema screen in AU. people ripin it up wid flames comin out of der muffler and a rat diggin through a guyz belly. So to all you stuck ups out der stop winging and enjoy da bloody movie|
|flames from exhaust , flamethrower kit for exhaust steam from the sides , purge valve off nitrous , which is to get the nitous to the point quicker, not steam , every one of the first few people are all fucking idiots and i cannot understand how so many peopke ended up here.|
|i waited 2 hours at the cinema to see this and within the first half hour i was falling asleep it was a load of crap. sorry but i think titanic would be better even that i find is boreing but it is a true story. im not going to bother seeing the 3rd one as that looks crap aswell.|
|looks EXTRA CHEEEZY! But maybe it will be a good movie entertainment wise.|
|Ok I'm looking at buying a 91 Honda CRX Si as a starter car. Those people who go buy civics, del sols, and crxs that are past the age of twenty need some serious help. I'm almost seventeen and plan to buy a small less powerfull car sell it and work my way up like that. Now about the flames go rent the movie go to the bonus features I think it's called "The Cars Of 2 Fast 2 Furious" it shows a lancer evo getting tricked out by the guy that built all of the cars and will explain that the flames are mearly caused by the type of muffler and what it's coated with on the inside.|
|u suck that movie rocked!|
|the coloured flames thing, - you mix certain chemicals with a flammable liquid that is injected into the exhaust system before being ignited. usually alcohol is used as a base because it burns clear. some of the chemicals that you can use to do this are - green - boric acid red- lithium chloride lilac - potassium chloride purple - potassium nitrate blue - copper chloride other chemicals are probably added to give the colours more brightness. mixing chlorides and nitrates with flammable liquids and driving around with it in your car isn't something I would consider very smart though, neither is having flames shoot out of your car. if the engine is causing flames to shoot out the exhaust, then usually it will pop and bang away rather then just shoot flames, on modern cars with oxegen sensors and cat converters setting up one of those flamethrower kits with the spark plug in the exhaust and the ignition cutout would probably melt your cat converter pretty quickly. the nos purging in the movie (from the skyline) was stupid anyway, it looked like it was coming from about four different places on the car, what was he doing, sitting there setting of all these different purge solenoids like some guys play with their hydraulics? how come the F&F movies started this civic craze? the only civics in the movies were the ones that they were using to hijack the trucks, the cheap inconspicuous beaters (that they then put neon on, way to avoid detection guys...) that they didn't care much about in other words..... not their race cars. IIRC vin diesel had an rx-7, paul walker had an elcipse (or something like that that we don't have in Australia), then there was the supra, that tran guy had an S2000, and vin diesels little racing crew had (I think) lancers, 200sx's, a jetta and stuff like that. in the second movie it was an s2000, evo, skyline and some muscle cars..... not a single civic. I think it's because civic is the most commonly repeated car name in the movie, so dumasses thought that every car in the movie is some sort of civic, or at least a honda.|
|dont try and take over me ill wop ya butt no time for auto graths ill do it later or shud i say 20 secends
(Editor's note: Um, what? Whoever can figure out what this means wins a cookie...)
|The movie was good for show & not for those who know... period. Does anyone besides me realize, this fucking discussion has been going on for 2 and a half years.. GET A FUCKING CLUE!! I hope the Tokyo Drify movie is better.. I afaird about the discussion on that movio. "Why is it in Japan", "Black guys cant race", "Hes whit what is he doing working in a japanese car garage" FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!|
|2 fast 2 furious is alright,but i've been to races alot more dangerous. My cousin's 2001 R34 Nissan Skyline GTR will beat anyone's car, and i mean anyones. All you fucking people don't know shyt bout racing. i come from trinidad, where they fuckin drift on the edge of mountains, so don't say shyt bout how you kno how it is.|
|fuck you morons its a fucking movie nobody cares and if you watch the speacial features it shows how they built the cars and the flames out of the car its easy you shhot some nos out wen your in nutral and ive been to street races in miama and there pretty much like that and fuck all the cars have grouind glow so suck my left nut you retard|
|every thing is really all the stunts were done by rhew actors they went throuhg a driving school and the kick ass all you emos suck a nut and go cut your wrist|
|ok i like the Yenko Camaro in this movie a lot it smoked ricers with a stock 427 block without nitrous in the one part where they race for pinks the eclipse and evo had to use nitrous all the way back, the only good thing about them winning was that u get to see the cars later in the movie. Also the since every one here is obbsessed with nitrous purges and flamethrowers kits, the so called "steam" is nitrous. They spray the nitrous in real drag races by the winshield to get the air out of the bottle to make the car run leaner. the flamthrowers kits are just for shows anyhow. U guys need to get over yourselves. look up things about engines on the internet or know something about cars before you mouth off. it wasn't a good movie tho either, best part was the skyline at the beginning, even tho if seen the pictures of the car after the bridge stunt the entire front of the car is torn to hell, and you dont have unlimited nitrous supplies, 6 bottles?? blow urself to hell..... i would actually pay to see a ricers versus muscle racing series, drag racing and trans am style racing|
|THIS MOVIE IS JUST THE GREATEST AND U GUYS ALL NO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEA THATS RIGHT U NO ITS THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND IF U DISAGREE THEN WELL U STINK|
|I NOW THAT NOT ALL THE STUFF IS THE REAL SHIT BUT IS A COOL MOVIE|
|hey all u sport tunner guys u need to get a life i have a 1990 ford mustang lx coup 425 horses yea runs a 8.60 1/4 mile i can carry the wheels 30 foot while there 2 feet in the air so i belive that if u think a sport tunner car can touch mine ur mistakein i have a 5.0 litter 302 small block alummin headers board out weld racing rims with gt drag ratials i can smoke the tires costing at 50 mph i have had it to 165 mph this car will make u cream in ur pants if u have a car that can take it u can e-mail me at email@example.com so lets see what u chink rice burner cars can do to american muscle
(Editor's note: And if you believe that, I have some beachfront property in Arizona for sale. Running an 8.60 1/4 mile with only 425 HP? Maybe in the 1/8th mile...)
|i haven't bothered reading the whole page, so apologies if this has already been said, but i just wanted to clarify how and why cars spit flames. (although i do agree the ones in the movie were probably done with special effects) firstly, as many others have said, you can get a kit which injects fuel into the exhaust and ignites it with a spark plug. this has no performance benefit, but looks cool if you are into that sort of thing (this is the only way to get flames on a car with a catalytic converter) secondly, an old car running on carbs without a catalytic converter will run rich when the gas pedal is released at high revs (i.e. when changing gear, revving on the start line or when slowing down through the gears) sending excess fuel down the exhaust pipe, this can cause flames if the exhaust is hot enough (which is why race cars spit flames sometimes approaching a corner) or again a spark plug can be used to ignite it (the old hot rodders trick, which WILL NOT work on a modern road car) finally, there are the flames represented in the movie, which are meant to be caused by the nitrous system. for those of you who do not have much knowledge of how nitrous oxide works, it basicly adds more oxygen to the mixture entering the cars engine, allowing more fuel to be added and burnt. burning more fuel creates more heat however, and if you are using a lot of NOS the engine will be unable to cope with this and nasty things will happen (detonation, holes in pistons, blown rings, warping and seizing, etc. etc) to prevent this even more extra fuel (more than the NOS can burn) is added, causing the engine to run rich and send unburnt fuel down the exhaust, carrying some of the excess heat away with it. This extremely hot unburnt fuel will ignite as soon as it comes into contact with more oxygen, i.e. when it reaches the air at the end of the tail pipe. this creates exactly the sort of flames seen in the movie, large blue flames from the exhaust while the driver is pressing the gas pedal, rather than just after he releases it. only a car with a de-cat exhaust system running a huge amount of nitrous will produce flames like these, but it can and does happen -Will|
|Rice cars? American Muscle? This is so sad. The age of american cars competing with the japs ended many moons ago. The japaneese are so far ahead of american gas guzzlers its not funny. The effficency of fuel use in the japaneese cars is second to none. American cars are heavy , poorly designed and with the rising fuel costs theres no prises for guessing which manufacturers will suffer . Im sorry but it needed to be said :-(|
|To get the steam get out of the car u get nitrous purge..|
|WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT LIKE FUCK YO YOU WANT TO GO ONE ON ONE STREET RACE BITCH BRING IT ILL BE WATING FUCKING ASS WHIPES My address 87 New york bounce.....|
|it relly relly relly sucked big balls|
|imports are the biggest pieces of shit and should not even be in our country. there for wanna be faggits and for the older crowd wanna be adults that wanna be in there 20s again. most of the kids i know that have ricers are complete morons. be smart sit in something that has torque. American Muscle. Ricer=douchbag in my book
(Editor's note: Ding ding ding! We have an official winner for the most ignorant comment ever!)
|How lame are all you kids bitching about all this crap to do with what cars suck and what things you think you can pick at as being fake, if any of you wish to look beyond being sad casses you can see there exhaust flamethrower kits at www.flamethrowers.com.au and they have videos to show them working on all sorts of cars|
|u fat basted|
|I think this movie was nothing but bullshit tryin' to make the POS ricers look fast. Why don't u go buy a fucking Corvette Z06? Faster, and even a hopped up supra couldn't touch it. I mean 50 Grand to make a fucking Honda Acorn almost as fast as a stock Silverado pickup. Fucking retards. Shit is so expensive for import performance. Why not just buy a fuckin' nova and buy a 350 small block crate motor and be done with it. I think almost everybody on here has no fucking idea what the hell they are talkin' about.Ohh, yeah It's not called fucking NOS. Theres more than one fucking company. The best vehicles ever made were American vehicles from the late 60's and early 70's. You fucking rice lovers are stupid as the cars you drive. My friend had a 03 accord and it was never drivin' hard and the whole front suspension, CV joints, And all that other front wheel drive bull shit (front wheel drive sucks shit) fell apart on I-70. He bought it brand new. It fell apart. And we shot the POS and he bout a 72 nova 350. An now he's happy. lol. I'm gone
(Editor's note: The American vehicles from the 60s and 70s were the most cookie-cutter of them all save for perhaps the mid '80s. Heavy cars with boring looks and poor handling. The only good point being the big engines but nowdays with technology we can make the same power and torque with smaller displacements and end up with a car tha actually turns and stops...The Supra probably isn't a very good example as it can make great power but reall lacks in other areas.)
|Ok guys, I stumbled upon this looking for some parts today and let me just say...wow...this thread is ridiculous, no-one seems to know what thier talking about really. Its a matter a matchong cars and parts together, not the number of cylinders. I personally DO own a civic, and i've left Mustang Gt's in the dust repeatedly, however I've also had my butt handed to me by Evos, and SRT 4's. THe movie was entertaining, it wasnt supposed to be completely mechanically correct. The flames ordeal is by far the stupidest topic of this page, you can make flames come from your own anus if you want to, the spark plugs, the autoloc kits, the backpressure and heat, it ALL WORKS. And the steam is nitrous purge. Its excess nitrous being expelled from the nitrous lines via a purge valve, about 120$ from nitrous express.|
|v8s r the best 426hemi mopar power blows out 425 horsepower standered find me a rice car max out to the max to race my charger standered an beat me ill give u my beast of the beasts
(Editor's note: I have an RX-7 that makes more power and weighs a hell of a lot less. See you at the track....I've said it before and I'll say it again: It is NOT about V8 vs. 4 cylinder, or import vs. domestic or anything else. It's about a bunch of idiot kids who bolt shopping carts to the back of Mom's Civic and suddenly think they have a sports car.)
|I think it was good now you people that think it sucked you suck|
|Note, this movie was, in fact, a MOVIE. i highly doubt that any of it was suppose to look real. the flames from the exhaust---added effect. the jumping-to-pass, thats obviously fake. you guys are dumb. think before you post something dumb like this.|
|OMFG!!!! What a piece of shit!!!! Did you see when that douchebag Paul WhatsHisFuckingDealAnyway drives the car while looking at whatshername and magically stops at the light??? What a tool!!! In real life he would have fallen out of the window and killed himself...and i bet people would laugh...hard!|
|wwhy doesnt anyone mention the new z06 corvette. they are extremely fast and they handle like a dream. they do 0-60 in 3.7 seconds and the quarter mile is 11.6 stock. there definately faster than any import car and there way faster than any european car unless u want to pay over 200 thousand for a car
(Editor's note: Yeah, the Corvette is a pretty good deal. And GM even made them less ugly then the previous version. Though it is a very heavy car and does handle as such. But I could take a $2000 RX-7, put $15K into it and blow the Corvette out of the water in every way.)
|I just like you sir editor thougth the movie was quite GAY. I'm a gearhead and I didn't like how the trucks were only reped as bouncers. My 2001 TACOMA V6 4WD is heavy, even for a little truck but she is ALL TRD. TRD from the Super Charger to the tail pipe and every thing els in the middle including her shoes. I topped her off with a 30/80 shot NOS system. My little toyota bitch was DYNO'd on 02-10-06 680hp at the rear wheel. I my town, I'm taken money from fools; friday nights on rt70 west. FUCK a car my truck is FURIOUSLY FAST................................................................................|
|So, the whole flames debate, theres ways to do it, and ways for it to just occur because of conditions, i have seen a old school ford coupe have long continous rolling flames, but also completely unknown to me for some time, does my 88 civic, with nothing but a header, cat-replacement pipe, and 2.5 inch way too big exhaust, has a flash of light or flame, when i hit the rev limiter, or a friend of mine with a WRX, shoots 8 foot flames, with no ignition sourse, theres many videos of it and other import cars that can be found on forums|
|just as short message 4 all the ideots on this who think 2 fast 2 furiouse is shit it is 1 of the best films ever made and its cos of ppl like u that they might not make another movie 4 the ppl who really enjoy it. if u dont like cars u shouldnt go and watch it should u. any1 who likes 2 fast 2 furiouse email me and we can have a chat|
|Understand. The movie is a sequel to the first, the first did well, so looking at it from the fat cats piont of view "the first was the most major and popular street racing film in the past 20 years, ,, who gives a fuck if the second is good or not, enough people will still pay money to watch it" Thats how it works. Thats why the matrix sequels were not up to scratch. _The only major problems with 2F2F was 1) Lack of different cars, 2) No story build up like the first, 3) Shit ending 4) Nothing beats the FAF with the guy caught on the truck. 5) Lack of Ludacris I give it a 5 out of 10, but i would watch it a second time it wasnt that bad i liked the rat part. V6's V8's V10's v12's hmmmmmm i dont know much about cars so everyone dont diss me, but it seems that its all about efficiency, Now the Japs have smaller roads, americans have big ass roads, so they make their cars big,,,,, Thus assuming the big engine heritage. Which evolves into power exagerations where people boast about V8 500 hp max speed "duh 160mph". Japs are efficient, in almost everything they do and you cant deny that their cars are the same, im not saying they make the best cars im saying they make efficient cars to what their aiming to do. Good cars, need low centre of gravity to prevent loss of traction and unncecessary skidding, needs to have a specific weight in accordance to engin size "this is where most are not efficient", you will find that good manufacturers step the weight up on the following modles to the previous. Thats about all i know of cats i wont say anything i dont know! Back to 2F2F,,,,, I was expecting lambo doors, hydraulics and oversized rims. And why didn't they use Snoop, snoop and Dre put the bouncing cars on the map. Shame!|
|i love da cars love da guys and gals in it da hole film was greta wen da nxt one comin out|
|even though i love imports, 2f2f sucks so bad its so unrealistic, its possible for flamethrowers buts it looks gay on imports... its almost impossible those muscle cars got owned, because in real life, it cant be owned. Now now, u little import fags better know that american muscle still rule drag strips, import cars rule circuit type races|
|this movie was entertaining, but it really is unrealistic. It was unrealistic to have the Eclipse go head to head with the Charger. Also, there was a MR2 in the movie. If you got the dvd and got teh special proloug, Paul Wall cruised around in a red Ferrari-looking MR2 turbo before he got teh Skyline.|
|Keyser - It is House of Kolor Lime Gold Green. You can find anything on the internet.|
|That film kicked ass. I dont care about the whole plot of the story, all i care about is watching those awesome cars in action. My favourate cars of that film are the Evo VII, the Nissan Skyline GT-R, and the Yenko. I think they did a fantastic job makin the yenko look so close to the original.The Skyline is a beast of a car, could have done with some better rims. But the Evo VII, that car is perfect. I like the color of that car so much, i want it on my car. The only problem with this is i dont know the exact color of it, i have an idea and think it is house of kolor lime green, but is it the exact color to the Evo??? and how do you get it??? Over all i admit this movie lacks realism, and is no way near as good as the 1st, but like to see you do better !! Please post back about the color.|
|first off, i think all of u need to sit down and smoke some marijuana. Then we could talk about cars peacefully. i cant believe this thing is still going on but anyway here it goes. The movie was aight as i remember it but was cheezy. Also i like the v8's personally, old ones to be exact but they are unrealistic to own unless u got the dough. why have a car that guzzles gas and cant turn just to go fast on the highway? Honestly my dream car is a 2006 chevrolet corvette zo6 but right now i cant afford it so i have an acura integra. Dont get me worng i love that car. Its quick. not fast. thats what many of you have wrong. the japanese cars are quick not fast. there is a difference. damn. i honestly lost my train of thought and i am going to stop typing. damn. -peace out and p.s. if you like cars u should like cars. u shouldnt discriminate based on what country they come from besides it looks like italy has us all beat. what ever i forgot what i was talking about again. bye|
|it only sucked because vin diesel was mnot in it no other reason u uneducated twat fish!!!!|
|I hear Zex has a sweet purge kit. The kit has a rapid fire, and blue, red, or green lights to light up the haze from the nitrous. You dont need nitrous to have a purge kit, I have a home made purge kit that uses non other than c02. The kit works and looks great, you can find how to DIY by doing a google search on "purge kits".
(Editor's note: That's officially the dumbest thing I have heard this year. Congratulations on being a complete dumbass.)
|2 fast 2 furious is an amazing film i mean in wot other movie do you see mitsubishes battering fuck out the engine for cash|
|This is a basic flamethrower schematic: http://backwoods-auto.50megs.com/howtoflame.html you need an old-school coil, coil bracket, spark plug, plug wire, switch wires and (the most important thing) the switch itself. if you get a momentary switch, push it repeatedly, until you get flames. otherwise get a (fast) turn signal realy to wire in between the switch and the coil. as far as the negative backpressure that can suck the flame back up the pipe (not all of the way): if you let up off of the gas, while igniting or you've cut the engine and ran your coil too long, you can cause expensive damage to your vehicle. run rich on a carb'd car. remove the cat (and run an o2 simulator) on an efi car (or you can bung the plug into an exhaust cutout before the cat), rev it up and ignite. BTW, 2F2F blew. And, dollar-for-dollar, I'd rather own an intimidating piece of art, be it american muscle or imported exotic. I like the rumble of a V8, the history of great automobiles, and watching loud-mouth punks (whos only inspirations are generic hollywood stereotypes of their car culture) getting their asses handed to them (that was for both domestics and imports). do you want to know who races for slips? idiots that want guns pulled on them if they win. "Yeah, you won. Get your smurf ass back in your crap-magnet and neon outta here." For everyone that's gonna respond with "I'll beat your piece of shit" and "I don't know where the hell you're from..." I've driven all kinds of cars - muscle, exotics, imports, sedans, luxury, suv, etc. Currently, I drive a Jeep CJ-7 (because I can no longer afford the speeding/looking-like-i-was-up-to-no-good tickets) and I know you could win a race against me. Also, I'm from the southside of Chicago. I've had friends get shot over these dumb-ass street races. If a track is provided, use it. If you keep it illegal, I hope someone you care about gets hit on the freeway by some civic, neon, cavi, or mustang that thinks he's in a supercar race. - my 2cents.|
|v8's, 6's and even 4's are all quick it all depends on ur cash flow, mechanic and wot ever the fuck u like!! but i still think that sgtgto know he's shit!! so you should all just take notes and stop fuckin being ignorant tools!!! and skylines rn't shit my gtr 97' mod runs 12.4 and thats only stock turbos with a modified fuel pump,and intercooler!! and it still scares the fuck out of me after 3 years!! but keep post'n guy's and maybe even sum new's or referals on sum new shit to get a few more kw or for u old foges hp!! from simple mods hit me up!!!|
|Stan... You are a dumb ass. You perfectly catagorized yourself into the people you say must.. "get educated and learn how to drive before you start talking about shit you dont have a clue about". If you think a momentary rich condition (when you "snap" the throttle closed" is going to cause flames... you are as ignorant as most of the people on this board. If you think during that split second where you let off the accelerator.. is enough for fuel to go through the intake, go through the combustion stroke WITHOUT being burnt, exit the exhaust, and make it atleast 8 FEET to the tail pipes before igniting..... then you need to step away from the match box cars and learn about REAL engine theory. As you said "everyone here except for me and a couple other people is either a little kid with pipe dreams of owning a fast car and not knowign how to drive it, or just completely clueless when it comes to cars." you are one of those little kids. Learn how a 4 stroke combustion engine works.. then feel free to post. This forum is filled with punks like you who try to play off as if you know something. Try again.. maybe next time.|
|here man all the people who rite on ere are rite fukin freaks a think like just coz u all like bouncen o mens cocks mainly some one hwo is called micheal dougles aka (dougie)|
|I dont think it was a good movie but there are worse out there. To say something about this almost 3 year discustion about v8's vs 4 or 6cl. I own both. I have a 2003 tiburon which I have spent about 1500.00 in bolt on's. headers cat back cold air, and mass air flow sensor overide. it pulls 14.6 in the quater at 98.5 or so mph. so for 22,000 i have a car that comes close to 100 mph. On the other hand i just got a 2005 mustang GT. at the price of 29,000 it is only taken me down the track at 14.4 at just under 101. I love both of them but in my eyes if i was to take 7,000 more and put it in to my tiburon it would smoke the mustang. plus the tiburon is better on gas but there is nothing like the feel of a v8 under the hood.
(Editor's note: This has NOTHING to do with what type of an engine a car has...it's just that a bunch of idiots seemed to think that it does...)
|Any clown who watched the fast and the furoius needs to be shot i didnt watch it i just look at the pictures on the back of the box and said...this movie is shit ive seen adds for it on tv and i said shit...i dont wanna watch some clowns in there fully sick japan mobiles for sure and certain that kinda shit just pisses me right off...but as for the people who made the movie...if i knew where they lived i would send someone round to give them free golden showers|
|first of all its a movie categorized as ACTION and is not in anyway a documental or a True history movie .. so please have an open mind....... PS: i did participate in the movie as extra with my car and to be honest the cars were real the jumps (some of them ) were real.... the things you did not see is the crashed while the practice or when they were filming and the flames were real ... and they look really cool :D only except on the S200 pink that they had to do the shot like 10 times because the right muffler wasnt trowing any flames... thank you and the movie was great i hope to see the cars they will have in japan for the 3erd!|
|whats up everyone. 2f2f was ok. Not realistic at all, but you have to keep in mind some things that do make the movie good. It was really the first time the American public got exposure the the Evo and Skylines. It also provided a somewhat realistic insight to illegal streetracing. From my experience, the crew and I dont blast our music and start break dancing @ 12am. We save that for the car shows. However, you will see about 1/3 of the crowd have underbodies and about an 1/8 have NOS. The scrambe was very realistic. Made me laugh when I saw it. I'm seeing the imports vs muscle argument again. Just to give you all a little information, import cars made their way into the US because they were smokin the muscle cars on the tracks with minor mods. Import cars were later banned from certain tracks around the mid 70's because they made the American made crap boxes look bad. I won't rag on the "muscle" scene because it is starting to make a comeback with quality engineering modeled after the Japanese. Personally I prefer imports, but their are a few muscle cars I wouldn't mind owning. Ill give credit to the solid quarter mile times and top speed of the gas guzzline and overpriced V8's but thats not all there is to cars. I guess the image is a matter of taste but the overall performance of Japanese engineered machines far exceeds the accomplishments of the American market. Ill run my STi against ANY American car on ANY tech. track.|
|so i stumbled on here while searching for something else, and all i have to say is wow! you people should really use your brains and try to learn something about cars before opening your mouths. This isnt necissarily directed at a particular person, as there were alot of realistic and proper comments. On the other hand, some of shit posted here is just dumb. First of all, the movie was terrible, it was made to appeal to idiot 16yo who still think its cool to street race in his/her honda. NEWSFLASH: v8s are fast, yes, turbo 4cyl are fast too. but it doesnt matter what you have as long as you drive and modify it properly. Why someone would ever want their car to shoot a 3foot pink flame is completely beyond me. It doesnt make your car faster, no it doesnt look cool, and as soon as a cop sees it ur getting an inspection. And as a matter of fact, yes car do shoot flames, N/A cars and force fed cars alike. It doesnt take special equipment or bad tuning. It happends when a rich condition is made when the throttle is closed. @ high rpms and closed throttle the fuel is sent out of the cylinder into the exhaust, where it is ignited just by hot exhaust piping. the reason your stock civic doesnt do it, is because its not being fed enough air to justify tuning to a high amount of fuel consumption, which gives you a high amount of fuel instantly being released when you let off @ high rpms. Its a byproduct of being fast, but just because you install a kit that makes your car do it, doesnt make it fast. Also, i dont know if anyone read the issue of sport compact car where they tested those cars, but GUESS WHAT? they sucked. yes theyre rice, that skyline....front driveshafts gone so mr. fucking hero can make the rear step out 2 inches. Yes it all heavily tuned and it still ran the qrt mile in an AMAZING high 13. That evo was fugly, and the mistu was rolling on wheels that weighed more than the car. None of those cars were fast. so yes, IT WAS JUST A FUCKING MOVIE! with fake cars made to look fast so little kids can buy a stock civic, slap a couple Spoon stickers and some mismatched parts on it and think theyre fast when in reality, theyre not. I could say alot more, but i wont. Cliff notes: it was just a movie, and a stupid one with a poor plot and shitty acting at that, and everyone here except for me and a couple other people is either a little kid with pipe dreams of owning a fast car and not knowign how to drive it, or just completely clueless when it comes to cars. So just get educated and learn how to drive before you start talking about shit you dont have a clue about.|
|allu you that like ninga turdle looking rice need to realise that they are the gayestfags ever|
|all i have to say is the big black charger smoked the rice burners, no nitrous needed. oh, and if you put a spoiler on the rear end of a front wheel drive, wouldnt it lift the drive tires? helping cause an unwanted drift in the front end? i guess i will keep my old chevy nova...|
|Wow... I haven't gone on here for a while now. And the bitching about "domestics vs imports" has only grown in size. I can probably sort all the people posting on this site into five categories: People talking shit about imports and defending domestics; people talking shit about domestics and defending imports; people actually contributing to the thread; people just randomly bitching about anything; and of course the editor, who nobody seems to listen to since the two first groups are still present on this site. I'm not even going to mention the people who pretend to be a gearhead, and get burned a few posts down. Borderline - if you're going to say something pointless, you might as well jump into your (most likely nonexistant) car right now, and drive off a cliff.|
|I love everyone|
|Excuse me editor, whats the deal with the editors note at the bottom of my comment.
(Editor's note: It's because nobody cares. This whole thing has turned into a pissing match between the owners of one group of cars and another. And it's highly likely that no one else give's a rats ass...)
|HEY, this note is for EDDIE ED.....The 3 computer chips in the BENZ is for top speed regulations, I bet if you took your white sorry ass over to the Mercedes dealer and asked someone to remove the chip they would. Anybody can get a fast 2 door car nowadays, but my point is that the E55 is a 4 door that anyone can drive, and still carry the kids to the Grocery store.....You mentioned that you had a M3, but you also said that it was tricked out, my point is that you dont need to trick out the E55. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIT....FUKA
(Editor's note: And the world yawned...)
|Okay I happened to like the movie so sue me...I have a sweet 94 mustang...with a 351 stroked and bored and novi 2000 supercharger...dyno'd at 753 ponies to the rear wheels...now why would people seriously consider and american car an inferior car. Before I put in the new engine I put 250,000 miles on the stock 5.0 without so much as a blown anything. America does know how to make a sports car. And from the other people in this posting place. Why would you guys believe that a four banger can compete with a 8 cylinder. Thats why people have different racing classes. I do hate a lot of ricers though. You put on a body kit and loud ass exhaust and think you can take on an eight cylinder why would you even think about doing that I'm sorry but do some real modifications.|
|the movie was alright, but honestly who jumps a lowered Nissan Skyline off a bridge and it doesnt bottom out for crack the rim, or even crack the F'kin Chasis.....And yea it is possible for a car to blow flames out the back....This dude right above me is a dumb dick cuz i had a tricked M3 that will leave u back there...The 2005 Sl500 AMG will leave that shit kidd...GTF outta here....Dnt make me do u dirty and pull out my brothers 1988 Mustang GT 5.0 and get in that ass....Dont under estimate the older cars cuz u have a BENZ...and plus how is ur benz 469 horses when that car carries 3 computer chips the limit the cars speed which makes it impossible to get all 469 horses out like u claim u do...dickhead..Get ya facts straight....fuka
(Editor's note: Blah blah blah, rant rant rant...And a grand total of absolutely zero reasons why anyone should care...)
|2 fast 2 furiouse is fuckin hellish|
|All of you need to look at the whole picture. Everyone wants to be right and never admit their wrong. I admit the movie sucked their............ But thats not what everyone is talking about. If it were up to me and I had 28 grand I'd pick up a brand new Nissan 350 Z. It combines both tuner drivetrain with conventional rear drive platform. I'm more of a around town fast driver that say a weekend racer. I'm not for American Muscle, Its 30-40 year old technology thats dated. All that it is, is a bored out engine block that uses pushrods instead of a more refined double overhead cam desighn. It doesn't take a genius to know that bigger engines produce more horsepower. But it is something when the japanese know how to make a car with 300 horsepower and still have the size of a toyota camry. Now, Im not saying i'm for civics either that run around town with coffee can mufflers, because it does get very anoying. The fact is, the americans cant build a solid car like the japanese, I know because I have both a chevy suburban, and a mitsubishi eclipse GT. the eclipse is a 2001 and runs perfect,its still solid like new. When we got our suburban we were constanty keeping the dealer busy with petty things. rattles and squeaks........ To keep a long story short, the japanese will always make a better car. If it were up to me, I get a mercedes E55 AMG, 469 horsepower 0-60 in 4 seconds flat beats any japanese or any American stereo typical car. Oh and I forgot, its a 4 door that weighs 4500 pounds. BEAT THAT|
|i think 2f 2f was cool i loved the parts were he kicked in nos any way if this would get rated i would give it a 55555 big ones|
|2F2F was just a movie, "a written script". Street racing does happen and those individuals involved end up getting in accidents and killing innocent people. Take it to the track, unless your ashamed of your cars et. Oh, and for the people bashing 4 cylinders and V8s, I have owned both. Sure a 4 cylinder can run with a V8, but it usually takes a "power adder". Give the larger displacemnt engine built with the same efficiency boost or spray and watch what happens. Alot of the older V8's out there are old technology and do good to make 225-275hp in stock form because of the inefficient cylinder head designs. The newer V8's are making 300-450hp. That is good power N/A, anybody that disagrees in carzy. As a car lover, you appreciate each car for what it's worth to you. A Civic dressed in a body kit, wheels, and some cheap axle back exhaust tring to pretend to be fast is a joke, but the same goes for any Mustang or Camaro owner with a flowmaster cat-back and a K&N trying to be hard. Any decent platform can made to be fast, some take more work than others, but if everyone raced the same vehicle what fun would that be?|
|Maybe you little girls with your "turbo" civics should learn that street racing isn't about doing 65 mph in the 1320, it also about haveing flashly neon lights. sigh....... aim......sleeperwita1jz|
|SUCKED big time. the only thing like this is a bunch of punk kids with under powered cars that listen and blair fucking rap and shit. thinking that this is how it is. no meets like that
i been to a lot of places. its all just minorities for the most part. driving their lame ass imports. u want power? try an original hemi big block. thats over 400 HP. even a civic with a turbo wouldnt amount to that.
(Editor's note: I've seen several turbo Civics that are making 400HP and beyond. I deal with 400 HP RX-7s on a weekly basis, and that's from 1.3 litres.)
|whats the performance data for all three of these cars the 69 yenko camaro the 70 dodge challenger and the 70 dodge charger all these cars from the movies.|
|Wow! this topic has been going on for 2 years now. Ok, now... i skipped over 50 60 of these replies, cuz they are all saying the same thing. 2 fast 2 furious sucked.... damn Rice-O-Rama. Ppl are ignorant on the whole subject... 1/4 times are dependent on several factors... power-to-weight ratio, traction/track condition, driver error, etc. You damn ricers think that adding a fart can, a 35 foot wing, and a bunch of stickers are gonna increase your hp and 1/4 mile times... Ay chihuahua! The movie sucked.. plain and simple. It was unrealistic, however, that's not unexpected since it IS a movie.. Meant to "entertain" the audience...|
|The Billy: Your right, the fasted stock GTO ever made is the new Holdens. Its really not hard to figure out why though. The classic GTO's have 35-40 years of technology against it. Traction control, better materials, fuel injection, even the tires! You would be suprised what happens when you put a set of new technology slicks on a stock muscle car. As for why I do not like the new GTO's. I think of it as sacraligious to put a classic AMERICAN namesake on an Australian built vehicle. Also, its a corperate engine, the LS2. GM, not Pontiac. They wanted to stir up nostalgia or something.. they just went about it the wrong way. I mean, atleast with the Mustang, the model has been continuted for the past 40 years. Production of the GTO was ceased after 1974. It was just the wrong way to bring back a GTO. I mean it looks like a G6. Atleast the Mustang pays homeage to its original look. Now don't get me wrong, they are sweet cars, in the mechanical sense. I dated a girl that had a '04. Its a blast to drive. No maintenence, still under warranty, you can just thrash it. But its not a muscle car. Too many computers and wires. I don't like it because its not a muscle car. That is just my opinion. Email me if you have any more questions.|
|I only weigh 160. And yes i'm pretty sure that EVO could win, you could never be 100% unless you saw them race FOR REAL. The reason being, is because this evo isn't stock. Keep in mind these are sponsored cars, that the actors just used. That motor was pretty built.|
|for crying out loud you are all a bunch of 500 pound sweaty fags, any fuckwit with half a brain (that obviously excludes america) would realise that this is just a fucking movie to keep horny little 13 year olds dreaming. I think the most depressing part about this topic is that your all grown adults.... i think) - and your ripping of a fucking kids movie! For fuck sake if you left your appartments for 5 minutes a day (not just to go to McDonalds) you might all realise that there is a real world out there and anti social stereotypes like you all will never actually learn anything ulsee its in a book or on a screen in front of you. Now go back to your medioka life styles and for fuck sake if your gonna try to be cool and rip off kids movies rip off barney or some shit.|
|Hey SGTGTO, Isn't the 2005 LS2 GTO the fastest stock GTO ever? I am not a car expert in any way, but in the online database of 1/4 mile and 0-60 times I was able to find none of the classic GTOs could touch it. I have seen documented stock 1/4 runs of 13.2 with the new GTO. Even if you call it 13.3 or 13.4, isn't that the fastest stock GTO ever built? http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/pontiac-gto/pontiac-gto-history.shtml Of course today's cars are expected to be faster because of technology. The only reason I bring it up is that you appear to really like classic V8 muscle, but then don't like the fastest stock GTO ever made. I have never owned a muscle car, and I was thinking about getting one. I would like to hear your take on the new GTO and why you don't like it. You are not alone, most old school GTO owners I have bumped into don't like the Holden, but I was hoping you could shed some light on why.|
|Editor: For as level headed as you are in most of your postings, your recent one about 2fastz31's post is niave. He gave a overview of the mods he has done, but did not get into details. Do you know what better injectors, a new computer, and ported and polished heads are good for on that engine? No. I bet 2fastz31 does though. It is ignorant of you to say what you said. Stock Pontiac pre-72 heads max out at about 220 cfm of flow at .500 lift. For a 400 ci block that is tuned, that is good for maybe 400 odd HP. But if you port those babies out, your talking 300 cfm of flow and an increase in output to over 550 HP. Just an example. Its ALL about airflow.
cancer- you may be pretty sure an evo would beat a hemi challenger and a yenko camaro.. but you need to be 100% sure. If that Yenko had a zl-1 engine in it (only 69 made) then you are REALLY wrong. They came with an advertized HP of well over 400, but a documented gross HP number of 600! And a early 70's Hemi had well over 525 HP. Whats an evo got?
ITRprincess - Thanks for the list of colors these cars came in, what about numbers? HP, TQ, 1/4, G's, weight? Do you know any of them? Those are what show how good the car is, not the color.
(Editor's note: Actually, I totally missed the part where he mentioned that he had a built engine...My mistake.)
|Alright, first off.. all you people need to get your info straight. 2Fast 2Furious sucked balls, and so did the first one. " I live my life a quarter mile at a time ".. yeah, can we say needs a hobby? Four cylinders (depending on which ones) can easily kill a V8. Ever heard of a DSM? Yeah, V8 eater! Trust me, I know. My fiance has one. As for myself, I drive one of the best four cylinder N/A cars. An Acura Integra Type R. (If you don't believe me, look it up. The Integra Type R was rated and still is the best N/A 4 cylinder in all aspects, including handling. It's only competition are turbo cars like the WRX for example.) I read that post by " Diabetic Duck ", yeah you're a moron, dude. Maybe you need to lower the dosage on your insulin, because it's eff'n up your mind. In 1998 the Integra Type R was only produced in Championship White. (Keep in mind I am talking USDM here. The JDM Integra Type R was released in 1997 and came in only Champ White as well.) Production was stopped in 1999, and then continued in 2000 and 2001. In 00-01 the Integra Type R was only produced in Flamenco Black Pearl and Phoenix Yellow. The Integra Type R was the only model "Type R" released to the United States. The Civic Type R never made it to the US. The only ones you see here were either imported or fake. Same goes for the Accord Type R, NSX Type R, and Odyssey Type R. Don't believe me? Research it. I'm sorry, but I think just this post alone proves that girls rule and boys drool. If the thought even crosses your mind that " Girls know nothing about cars. They can't race, etc etc " Just think back to this 18 year old female with an ITR. :) Can we say.. PWN'D?!|
|I saw a lot of things about steam and fire comming out of your car. Are they referring to the Purging of the nitrous? You can get the flames to come out, by buying little things that make fire come out of your exhaust pipe. I've seen it online. Also the american muscle cars didn't smoke the evo, just the eclipse. The eclipse GT isn't that fast, and in real life, wouldn't compare to that EVO. I'm pretty sure that EVO could run over both those muscle cars, and that eclipse GT. Also i noticed some other bull. In the beginning all the cars take off the line at the same time. Yet the nissan skyline is an all wheel drive car. It should've beaten them all off the line. And those guys can't shift in that movie, i hear so many redlines. I mean damn, lol.|
|Who all agrees that movies that have car races in them should be real, we all know that the charger would have beaten that eclipse, non of this made up mumbo jumbo!!!|
|Well, I thought that the movie was just on the medium side.. You must realize, its just a movie.. All of your questions can be answered with one statement. "The Director Made Them Do it" Although I will address some of the issues on your posting..
My Grandfather owned a shop, my father owned a shop and now I own a shop.. the guy that said that V8 muscle needs to be extremely modified is incorrect. We regularly work on alot of different muscle and ricer cars and I have seen great times out of both. It just depends on whos doing your work and what your doing. These kids with the rice cars are pretty much just doing alot of wishing by putting a muffler and cold air intake and thinking there going to even keep up with just factory stock vehicles " . like the Evo, 2006 Eclipses, and many many other imports.. These cars are coming out of the factory with close to 300hp. That is quite a feat. Damm, even luxury imports are pushing 300hp, It would take at least about 5 grand on an average cast iron block engine car, just to break into to 13 second range at the track.. Also, I have seen many races over the years for titles, and money up to about 10 grand, "everyones area has different money". Also, personally, I think running for titles is the most stupid possible thing that anyone can do.. Simple to explain. You could have a car that runs 11's all day long and your competition doesnt know that and they only run 13's ... You figure that its no contest to just blow them away. Exept for one thing.. What if something simple goes wrong with your car "just that damm day".. Like a u joint, or for you fwd's a cv shaft, your tires belt is broken on the inside and it just happens to blow, or a timing belt or chain snaps ... Yes pretty dumb huh? Bang! you just lost 3 years of 30% of your salary that you invested.. You want my advise... Build a small block chevy from the bottom up that puts out "on a dyno" 350hp pick a body and then add a 150 hp NoS kit and now you have the best of both worlds and run 12's all day with very little headaches.. You will have the best tool in drag racing, and that is consistancy...
Myself I run an 85 300ZX 3.0ltr V6, 100HP NoS kit, no moody turbo that messes with my consistant times, I run a performance computer, the engine is built from the bottom up with forged weiscos, the proper cam, modified exaust from headers to tailpipe, performance computer that runs with the proper injectors, and everything through the valvetrain ported and polished. and a few other things that arent important..
She runs hi 12's all day long and If I push the button "and I only do that for money" , im running 11:9 to 12:1s with slicks and depending on track temperature. I am not even going to mention the money that I have into my rally setup suspension. If you want the recipe for a homeade afterburner that you can put together for under $50 bucks youll have to email me.
(Editor's note: Unless that NA 300ZX has been stripped of about 1000 LBs of weight, there's no way it's running 12s...The '85 300ZX weighs like 3200 LBs and makes all of 160HP in NA form. Even the turbo only makes 200HP. Add a 100HP shot of nitrous to 160 HP and you get 260HP, which MIGHT be enough to get a car of that weight into low 14s on a VERY GOOD DAY.)
|Me .. you are a dumb shit thinknig that V8s are trash.. i'm also from australia and i'd love to see a rwd jap car weighting the same as a V8 run 8 sec quarter mile without stripping the car. A 308 block in any commodore with a few modifications would be able to run 10s easily.
(Editor's note: That's a pretty stupid statement. I basically doesn't matter where the power comes from, two cars with equal weight and the same power will run basically the same in the 1/4 mile. And there's also more to life then the 1/4 mile a well. )
|listen who ever made dis site is realy gay coz u dont noe wat ur talkin about u dumb ass i think dat movie was a good movie so go ride ur lil bike dik head|
|Yeah i agree that the movie sucked, but how can you say that this one had a plot, cause honestly I fail to see one (that makes sense anyway)... The movie directors need to open their eyes and see the hard reality. In the beginning of the movie, when the guy bashes his Skyline through an insignificant little parking pole thing, and messes up the whole front of the car. The funny thing is that while he does that, when he bashes through the rather thick metal pole at the car impound/lot no sh*t happens to the Evo... Now how the hell does that make sense? If someone would care to explain to me what I honestly dont get please feel free to do so...(the first movie was better...but then again everything is in comparison...)|
|Everybody should be glad we are born with different taste. Just because something isnt to our preference doesnt mean we should be hatin. I drive a 1967 ranchero I like driving it for the fact theirs not that many around Dallas,Tx. I also understand the simple fact that if you have money you can make any car fast. Heck if you want to argue which is faster imports,or classic muscle drive them both off a cliff. Thats a little lame joke for you folks. Id personally want to be in the classic better chance coming out alive in a heavy all steel car.|
|Fast and fakeness #3 now filming in Hesperia Ca... Number 2 was a liittle over board but hey.. it made money and that is what counts... to make a real Ilegal race video would be very lame, every 10 or so mins the cops show up and no real cars run all 14 and 15 sec 500 $ piles of crap..listen little fake racers an exaust and intake dosn't make you a racer... the real cars race at real events.the real illegal street races ended years ago.. alonge with the real cars......also a little fyi for all you fake racers.. w.t.f. is up with running no hubcaps on the front wheels? does this make you look like you have slicks? jesus you idiots..... get off it hondas are not race cars and when they are it takes 50,000k to make them....|
|I am trickin out a '05 acura rsx type s kind of like 2f2f and nfsu i'm adding designs and engine repair so i might know alot about cars and how the hell did the spider keep ahead of the cops i've seen 9 spiders race and they are poor.|
|how many ppl here like the underbody neon
(Editor's note: Sadly, probably many...)
|If you go to autoloc.com it has the flaming exhaust kit it will ruin your cat though. NOS blow off spray looks like steam|
|AND THE ARIEL ATOM RUNS WITH A CIVIC TYPE R ENGINE. YEH!!! A JDM ENGINE TAKE DAT U DRUNK BRITS|
|Yes, the movie did suck. But the funniest part is that you all argued over this lmao|
|hi guys... i have a '92 miata roadster with T3 turbo, wet shot of NOS, with purge kit, APEXi SAFC, Jackson Racing clutch, Vortech FMU. We changed the diff with the ones with the RX7 coz i broke two miata stock diffs already. it clocked 13.3 sec on a 1/4 mile. its a small car and is ALMOST modified to its max. the fastest 1600cc roadster so far from where i come from. i can send the time slip if you want.
more power guys!
(Editor's note: All that for a 13.3?!?)
|v8s suck rotors rrule|
|u guys all suck penis|
|LISTEN YEH I AM FROM LONDON (ENGLAND) NOT USA. ALL DA MUSCLE CAR ARE SHIT!!!! AND SLOW US ENGLISH HAVE DA (AERIEL ATOM) YEH!!! 0 60 IN 2.8 SECSYEH SO TAKE DAT U FAT AMERICANS|
|www.flamethrowers.com.au has exhaust flamethrowers that will give the effects like the flames in the movies,they allso actually have videos of there flamethrowers working so you can see how they go on all sorts of cars|
|Its a Movie and how old are we just go back to looking up porn.
(Editor's note: This quality comment brought to you buy the poster's Google search for "fake purge kit").
|I had fun reading all this crap. It brought a smile to my face.|
|did y'all hear that they're about to start filming the fast and the furious 3?they have a casting call on a forums website that i hang around at, check it out
sorry to say but i'm going to see this movie and not to laugh at the actors. you see kids m age are mysteriously drawn to spoilers, anything that says nitro on it, racing seats, playstation 2's and anything that says sparco or momo it's kinda like nature and know y'all liked unnesesary stuff when you were young (don't even try to lie). seriously would you go see a movie that just had like only 10 strict racers whose cars looked like crap but were fast? most of the people in here talkin crap wouldn't even think about the movie, if the movie was like that they wouldn't have a studio to finance they're picture.
p.s i'm sure the people on this forum who drive a highly modded car is on they're way to socal to register their car for the movie.
(Editor's note: When I was young I didn't like "unnecessary" stuff. I also drive a highly modified car, and won't be anywhere near registration for the movie...)
|mr2? u dont know jack they were an evo and a spyder kicking the shit out of those cars and a yenko camaro can run a 11s. quarter easy. i live in one of the most hot rodded states in america. i would know
(Editor's note: Of course. By virtue of where you live, you would automatically know everything about muscle cars. Since I'm in Canada, of course I know how to build an igloo...right....)
|you guys r the gayest people ever what kind of fag posts a web site about a movie he didnt like. if i knew any of u i would kick ur ass
(Editor's note: I'm shaking in my shorts...)
|that movie was awsome OK ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you people suck|
|wow..... this has been going on for like a year. american vs import = stupid it should be lots of money vs lots of money there is all kind of racing, so state what you mean, if you talk about drag....well an old school v8 is goig to probbly do more damage for less money but being a supra owner I like the idea of pumping up the horse power to match the raw power of a muscle car. shure you can buy a stock evo and do 13s but thats like 28 to 30 thousand i know guys that drop a basic crate engine into there old shcool rides and pull 12.9s with not that much money invested i figure i will need to rebuild and do lots of mods to my supra adding up to about 5000$$$ to come close|
|what no slicks on the YENKO.? raceing on stock wheels? hey i burned a copy for my kids ...its a kids movie not a doctu...i fell asleep but kids watch it over and over...|
|That movie ROCKED. CIVIC's are the fastest cars ever! Skylines are nothing compared to a nos'd out 2004 civic AT! i own 20 Skylines that I got from a used car dealer in the middle of the desert that is run by a duo of asians! Dude, my civic throws flames out because i rub gas all over the tailpipe. I do an 8.5 1/4 mile with my NOS!|
|south africa. where i'm from. we have a street-legal 4-cylinder running 8.3. fuck you yanks and fuck your big v8's, they don't come close. and by the way, if the japs had to build a v8 with the same power to mass ratio as the EVO, you'd all crap in your pants. for the record go and research the new EVO 8 NQ 400. 0-60mph in 3.5s. fastest stock saloon in history. oh, and fuck you.
(Editor's note: And the world is better for this post...)
|The first movie was okay, but was definitely a work of fiction. The sequel made the first movie look good. This thread is priceless!!! It just made my bookmarks. Some of these wonderful comments from some of these wonderful people just remind me that there are still a lot of excellent reasons for birth control, abortion, and mercy killings. Editor: you should make it a requirement that the posters state their age at least once. It would be kinda interesting. BTW: I'm 39. I've owned a few different cars. I will say that heavier more powerful cars (ie: big v8 powered cars) are better suited for highway driving, but smaller cars with or without powerful engines are better suited for non-highway use. Look at the countries where the cars were originally built. Japan: lots of hills, smaller areas of straight driving, lots of curves. Europe: Older towns, therefore smaller vehicles, but still a lot of flat land to allow for faster cars. Germany has its autobahn, but I've seen some hilly, curvy roads in Bavaria, Schwarzwald, and other locales. USA: originally we had smaller cars, in the 40's through the mid 70's we developed a 'decent' highway system. Lots of straight roads for interstate travel. I've seen older USA-built muscle cars handle just as well as newer 'ricer' cars. This was due to upgraded suspensions, updated tires, and updated fuel management systems also. American V8's are popular engines still today. Alloy blocks, alloy heads, alloy intakes, alloy driveshafts, alloy wheels, vented/drilled disc brakes: all of these factors can help an older car feel like a new one. I don't think a 30+ year old Hemi 'Cuda will beat a 2005 Mitsubishi Eclipse in a road race over the Alps, but I think it will beat it from Philadelphia to Pittsburg. However, check the value and condition of the car in another 30 years, and I think the 'Cuda will still have value and probably still have most of its original mechanical components. The Eclipse will be lucky to even still be around. New cars are designed to be disposable. The metal is thinner, they have more plastic in them, and parts are actually sometimes harder to find for newer cars than some of the older ones. Old cars: no fire meant ignition problem. Old cars: no fuel in carbs meant fuel pump or line problem. It was/is that simple. New cars: good luck figuring it out without a computer hooked up to it. We're comparing apples to oranges. I just like remembering all these folks that were worried that their cars were going to shut down on January 1st 2000. I will say one thing though. I've done it in a Honda Accord, in an MGB GT, in a VW Jetta, in a Jag XJ6, and in a 77 Plymouth Fury. There was plenty of room in the Fury. I don't recommend that kind of fun in a lot of the currently easily affordable new cars, unless of course you have a good chiropractor (sp?). Don't talk about using the hood either, new cars have such thin sheet metal and thin paint that it costs too much at the body shop afterwards. The world is 99.9% full, please delete anyone you can. Thanks. Soapbox mode is now off.|
|WOW rob. You talk of an ego problem with people and their car nationality preference.. then you go on to trash anything but a EVO. If that is not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. Now its time for a little bit of edumacation for our down under friend here. First go to this website: http://www.musclecarclub.com/musclecars/general/musclecars-50fast.shtml Now insert foot in mouth. That is 49 cars made from the early 60s to the 70s that ran 13 second or lower times in the 1/4. Not the 12.2 sec time of the Shelby Cobra. Oh. Those are all v-8s listed too. Naturallly aspirated. On 1970s technology tires. All reputable sources (ie. Motor Trend, Car and Driver.. ect ect). Now if we take the 13.4 second time of your EVO and compare it... that is a total of 10 cars that beat it. WIth only 2 drive wheels. No power adders. And just because you live in back ass australia doesn't mean that ALL v8 cars come from there. GM screwed themselves by soiling the name of a classic peice of art by slapping the name on a aussie peice of junk. We still have our modern classics though. The new Z06 Corvette has 500 HP. It runs 11 second quarters and sub 4 second 0-60 (or 0-100 for you). The 2005 Mustang GT runs 13.5 STOCK. The 2003 Mustang Mach 1 runs 13.2 STOCK with a 5 SPEED. Now correct me if I am wrong, but you did say that "you personally could NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! run a 13 quarter in something stock with a clutch". Now see if you can get that other foot in your mouth. Here are some others for you to chew on. 99 Mustang SVT et 13.9. 03 and 04 Mustang SVT et 12.9. Most Corvettes from 1990 and up run 13 second quarters. 1996-1998 z28 Camaro runs 13 second quarters. Caddie CTS-v runs a 13.4. And your Aussie wonder the 2005 GTO runs a 13.3 in the quarter... STOCK. That be faster than your EVO. And before GM started importing Australian crap, their firebirds and firehawks were quick, many of them running into the low 13s. And if you want to spend 5000$ US you can buy a nice supercharger system for a v8 and see HP numbers in the 800 range. No computers, less money. Just raw horsepower. Now what did we learn today kiddies? 1. Just because you use alot of 4 letter words does not make you right. 2. Before you go and make idiotic claims and use words like never, try reading. The information is out there.|
|All I can say is, this whole EGO PROBLEM thing that people have with what nationality a car is, is just a fucking a joke!
LET ME CORRECT ALL YOU FAGGOTS OUT THERE!
First of all, the Mistubishi EVO is a 206kw ALL WHEEL DRIVE vehicle that does 13 seconds on the quarter in STOCK FORM!
Now a V8 dinosaure junk piece of shit NEVER EVER EVER came close to a 13 second bracket in stock form, only in highly modified form!
So to all those white trash dickheads out there that like AMERICAN PIECE OF UGLY SHIT, well, that just says a lot about what you know about cars.
ALMOST ALL turbo 4s if not all, are kicking the arse off V8 muscle.
Im from australia and the most powerfull V8 street car is the HOLDEN (GENERAL MOTORS) 300kw/400horsepower 5.7L V8.
Now that thing does 14s on the quarter, and 0-100km/h in 6 seconds. THATS FUCKING SHIT TIMES!
compare that to a 180kw (245hp) MR2 TURBO which does 13's stock form, and see who wins.
every other V8 was only producing 180kw (245hp), e.g GM HOLDEN COMMODORE VS, VT etc.
This whole ignorant view that v8's are king is a fucking joke cause it's bullshit, JAP CARS DONT NEED NITROUS, they just want nitrous to make it go faster, something wrong with using nitrous?
ALL YOU COCKS OUT THERE THAT LIKE V8 muscle white trash DONK ugly shitboxes can go shuv it up your arses
fuck you i have a chevy that will kick your any of your cars asses and out style any thing you ever will buy any one who says that turbo 4 will bet a V8 is sick if in a car of equal size the V8 will kick the fuck out of any turbo 4. the V8's were modified sure but any engine that can get 780 hp with an few mods is the shit. just cause the engine cost more thanyour car dont mean go and hate.
p.s you personally could NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! run a 13 quarter in something stock with a clutch
(Editor's note: Blah blah, rant rant. The world as a whole is now a better place because of your comment...)
|First of all, would you like to know WHY Japanese companies don't throw down 500whp cars like the US did back in the 60's and early 70's? BECAUSE OF TAXES!!! The law in Japan is different from the US. In Japan, if you buy a Skyline GT-R or Supra, prepare to pay a shitload for insurance. In Japan, the higher the number on your displacement, the more money you gotta pay. Plus after every 10 years, your insurance doubles, and in some cases, triples. Plus, you are NOT allowed to do maintenance on your own car. Since Skylines are 2.6L engines, you can expect to pay about $150 a month. not too bad. However, let's say by some miracle you get ahold of a ridiculously rare RB30DETT (aka RBXDETT) equipped skyline (3.0L engine). ANYTHING OVER 3 LITERS = $300.00 + ON INSURANCE!!! So tell me, if you were to buy a muscle car (which, by the way, I love... god bless the GTO's) how long could you hold it? You can't modify it, you can't tune it by yourself, you gotta pay $300 a month on insurance, it's too big to fit on tight Japanese streets (2/3rds of american roads), and it's definitly gonna get dented in 'cuz if you've ever been to Japan, you'll know that those bastards will tailgate your ass to no end, and is actually accepted and considered normal. Shit, you ever seen a 4-lane toll checkpoint suddenly go into a one-lane freeway onramp? That's Japan. I was honking and flipping fuckers off to no end! So Just because Japan hasn't released any hi-performance cars on the lot doesn't mean they're weak or stupid. It's that they can't. But don't you think it's wierd that NEVER within the last 10 or so odd years has there EVER been a world rally car race in which a MUSCLE CAR has won? Once again, size does matter. Want a better example for you 16-year old posers and your Integras with the unpainted bodykits and the 16-year-old possum-eaters with the rolling garbage pail you call a "project car": A MAN WITH A 20-INCH PENIS CAN'T HAVE SEX BECAUSE OF IT. UNLESS YOU ARE BANGING A PROSTITUTE THAT IS TRAINED, YOU WILL RIP YOUR GIRL IN HALF AND SHE WILL HATE YOU FOR IT! Oh, and back on topic: 2Fag2Furious was just another way for auto parts stores to sell their underglo kits and NOS systems. Want proof? three months ago, the orange supra from the first FF movie was sold on yahoo.com used cars section. NO TURBO. Funny how the movie claimed it had a big-ass twin turbo in it... which kind of buzzed me. with a port and polished head unit, a shitload of upgrades, and NOS, generally it's not uncommon for supras to pump 750 to 1050 horsepower. yet, that supra choked on the NOS going against that Charger, which had the most unusual blower unit I have ever seen (for the newbies, blowers are the fancy metal thingies on the top of the hood). I never knew you could fit the same blower from the Monster Truck Jim Carey drives in Ace Ventura on a fucking Charger. Back to 2F2F: Movie sucked ass. I may be Japanese, but I love muscle cars. If I were to wake up every day to the sound of a muscle car or a JP-car, I'd rather hear the sweet hum of a '69 Mustang Mach 1 or a '71 Barracuda any day. Integras just don't sound right with a cup of coffee.|
|the steam is not steam it's nitros purge, it emptys the boddle for a long as u hold the nitrous button and u do not press on the gas and tubes redirest the nitrous, second, u can get flames to shoot out of the bac of the car with a high powered exgust system|
|2F2F sucked balls way to fuckin corny, and as for the V8 versus rice the V8 would smoke any jap car, i have a RX-7 and yea its fun to drive but wouldnt be as nearly as fun to drive as a muscle car. You get way more looks from people on the street when they hear the rumbling V8 coming down the street then when they hear the humming of a jap car.|
|i've gotta agree with dave the sound of a V8 getting revved up really gets your blood flowing|
|i know everyone on this website thinks that everyone that puts a bodykit, spoiler, playstation or something in their car is a ricer but these things are put on a car to make it look good, sound good. you want to drive down the freeway and see 5 year olds pointing at your car and now a lot of posers are going around and putting those stuff on their cars and those punks are giving the real import fans a bad name. Y'all are interested in one thing and one thing only and that's the speed so you strip the seats, sound system and every thing that isn't needed in your car. all i have to say is that i don't blame you but don't be talkin like everybody that make mods on their cars other than their engine, transmission or drivetrain is a "ricer". ricers were created by movies like the fast and the furious who watch the movies and spend thousands of dollars on their car engines and then spend more thousands on an mp3 player then a computer, 6 tv's, strobe lights, 10 speakers, 3 amplifiers and lamborghini doors (lamborghini doors have been put on so many cars that they're starting to piss me off) i have friends that are gettin like that like one getting a ford focus and he's gonna put a bodykit, big bore and spoiler on it and just drive it around. All i'm trying to say is that you can put stereo's, air bag suspension, carbon fiber hoods, bodykits, big aluminum wings, graphics, tv's, gaming consoles, big exhaust systems, racing seats, hood scoops, roof scoops and anything that i haven't mentioned in your car just as long as you keep it original not that you get an eclipse and make an exact replica of the car from the fast and the furious
(Editor's note: You just don't get it. I fear for the world based on the youth of today.)
|now i think all most of the facts in 2 fast 2 furious were slow like in the first scene when they were all racing with their windows open that would have kept them out of going at speeds so fast but i admits that i've seen the movie over 10 times, people ask me why i watch it and i just watch anything thats about cars (that's how car crazy i am). and with the domestic vs tuners argument my dream cars just happen to be a 69 camaro rs and a 71 pontiac gto but i still love imports even though i live in tallahassee, florida where it's full of rich kids who's parants get them a japanese car for there birthday and they put a bodykit, rear wing, big bore exhaust, flame graphics, underbody neons and racing seats on it and suddenly think that they're streetracers! sure if i've got the money for new interior parts, a spoiler, tvs and subwoofers and bodykit i would buy it and also make some engine and bodymods but i would keep it light but i resent buying underbody neons cos i feel they're for little boys who like having "lights" under their shoes. i like cars cos i love speed i love the noise they make hell when i was little i was one of those kids who put sprite cans in their bicycle tyres to make them sounds like motorcycles. i'm not a genius with cars i know how they work and i know the jdm and usdm parts but i haven't really worked on them but i've done my homework on them. and for the brits who r cussin american muscle i moved to london when i was 8 and lived there for 3 years and as far as i saw most british people don't like speed because they care about the economy to much and if they you in a fuel burning supercar they would probably give you dirty looks and if you go to the countryside car shows you would see that most of the classics are cobras, mustangs and camaros etc if u don't believe me go to ebaymotors.co.uk and you would see a whole section just for american classics so do your research b4 you talk|
|For everyone outhere who wants to have Flames coming out their exhausts; here's a hint...go buy a flamethrower kit sold on ebay. that is what they used on both F&F and 2F2F..|
|ok the movie 2 f 2 f didnt suck it was made to be dramatic not realistic. i mean i dont think it was meant to be realistic when the showed em jumping over a bridge...that was just for entertainment and to make money cuz it looked kool. now to the flame thrower... the whole idea of adding a flamethrower is stupid. one reason is that your engine isnt running properely is enough gas is cumin outta ur exhaust to ignite like that. the the whole idea about the propane tank and a spark plug is dangerous. if you ignite it and thres a leak you can get blown up....its also stupid cuz if its to close to ur rear bumper or bodykit you will end up melting it depending what it is made out of. ... now the whole import vs. muscle argument is stupid... everybody has their own taste it depends what you are into like the style and shit. the nie thing about muscle is that for most of them you will have more stock torque and HP. But dont get me wrong... a few of the imports not have that two. the nice thing about the imports is allll the options you have available for them. also the nitrous oxide issue. the 1st thing is that it adds weight to ur car but it also gives u a HP boost for a few sec. they are dengerous for u and your car but if you tune it right and your engine can handle it you will b ok. n2o is ok if you are really into dragracing but b sides that its stupid to have it. unless you have it just for looks and u dont even use it then ur really really stupid b cuz ur adding weight. if you want it for looks you miht as well go get the bazzooka subs that look like them and says nos on it then u have nice bass and a lil style to your car. and by the way i and 17 and i raced an evo for slips and i won i was riding my 1991 toyota mk3 supra turbo (*stock*)|
|its a fuckin movie.. get over it.. i love imports n shit and they might look like they've overdone somethings but they are fuckin loaded so they can do these things to their cars n the wont nessessarily fuk things.. all u ppl who dont like y did you watch it wen clearly you can tell by the cover its about hotted up cars..
(Editor's note: Is that supposed to be English? Because all I'm thinking right now is "Huh?".)
|u guys r all wrong the movie was pimp. tuners and muscle cars r both pimp. i own a 1998 toyota supra and a 1969 camaro and they r both pimp. so there|
|i agree it was not as good as the first it was really boring and it was facucked and so who ever out there likes it GO GET YA HEAD CHECKED BECAUSE I THINK YA GOT A BIT OF DAMAGE ALONG THE LINES OF YA DULL LIFE|
|wow japanese cars fuck american muscle cars,viva evo series|
|Actually movie was lame, racing does take place. Computer exhuast etc. Man you people really never have seen this stuff have you. I know of 2 cars running flaming exhaust. Its actually achieved by running ignition wires (ie spark plugs) in the exhaust a few feet back on the end of the exhaust. A car buring rich fuel does loss some fuel in the exhaust. The spark controled from in the car (switch like nos) turns on the plug that ignites the hot unused flames. I also saw I guy I didnt know do it off south beach in his Nissan 350z and it was pretty wild looking for the cars around him, and even for me walking down collins street. Was the only car, modern that I have seen with this. The cars I know running the system are of the 67 vintage were the fuel wast is high in the 397 fords and the 494 chevys. I am not a car genious but have seen it enough in person to know its not computer anime. And not hard to accomplish if your car burn lean. Ignition wires, drill a hole in the exhaust place a spark plug, and thats about it. The trick is having the right fuel mixture, the correct placement of the sparkplug, and exhaust that hangs past your plastic bumber...|
|editor that 20g includes price of ENTIRE CAR BUILD
got the car for 10 and rebuilt it for another 10
anyways the flames is also a kit. You rev it up and it kills the ignition, which runs gass though the motor and into the pipes. then at the end of the pipes you got a coil (10 bucks) and a spark plug which is controlled by the same swich that killed the ignition. The only problem is it is VERY bad for the motor and you cant always be on the flams or the motor stalls.
by the way the editor is funny as hell
(Editor's note: My RX-7 only cost me $3999 off the lot...)
|my 9.56 67 camaro= under $20,000 (pump gass)
most 12.00 ricers= $80,000
Ricers with enough "NOS" to blow half the nation up that are $80,000 run high 8's
now my 67' wit 80,000 into it........Skyline, NSX, and evo's just got a one way tickets back to japan
you got an import.....no matter wut, there are faster american muscles at a fraction of the cost
and 5mpg is BS I've been in 1st gen camaros that get 25-30mpg once the carbs come off and FI goes in
have a nice day
now i think the movie was great and it was VERY real
ricers cant win in a fair race
(Editor's note: Hm...Now I'm not a ricer, but it only took about $3000 to get my '86 RX-7 into the 12s...)
|"6.54 seconds at 211.73 MPH. What was he driving you ask? You guessed it boys and girls, a rice rocket." Stephan Papadakis DOES have a fast "import". I will give him that. His others cars were more impressive though. That car is a race car. Much like NASCAR vehicles. Almost no relation to stock vehicles of the same name. But he does run a import engine. Top of the line though. V-6 NSX engine. Highly modded. Take note on what wheels are spinning smoke in the pictures though.. It doesn't look like the fronts.... "show me a car running 5 second quarter mile times in the US that is not an alcohol burning funny car" What was Stephan Papadakis running through that NSX engine? It wasn't gasoline. Try a racing mix of methanol. So lets see a 7 second "import" that is not a methanol/alcohol/nitro burning RWD shell.|
|yall are stupid the producers were going for looks you idiots.
i know because i personally dickheads.
(Editor's note: Well, that's almost a sentence...)
|you guys dont know good movies when you see one|
|Not to dispute your intelligently thought out string of swears, but show me a car running 5 second quarter mile times in the US that is not an alcohol burning funny car. And you should look up this name "Stephan Papadakis" National E.T time record holder and MPH record holder. 6.54 seconds at 211.73 MPH. What was he driving you ask? You guessed it boys and girls, a rice rocket. No don't get me wrong, I loved my 57Chevy for what it was, A TANK, a VERY Cool TANK. and my 51 Merc, and 71 Charger RT with the 6-pack were fun as hell on the weekends, but I'll put my 240sx with a RB26DETT bored out to 2.8 liters with a twin goody package from Garret, Greddy FMIC, and complete carbon fiber shell against anything you've got any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Now in responce to the post that started this all, Yes 2F2F sucked compared to the first one, but show me a sequal that was better that the original. With the excemption of the Godfather it hasn't been done, and that one is still up for debate. If you want a documentary on illegal street racing, watch MTV's "I am an Illegal Street Racer" if you want to be entertained, go to the movie theater, pay your 9 bucks, and shut the hell up.
(Editor's note: I should be clear. The first one sucked as well. It's just that 2F2F sucked harder...)
|Well i agree with everything what the dude sayed all soo true funny shit about the comment "Who the hell races for pink slips except 16 year old punks in civics" <--- lol i like that ;) btw evo's rox the world!|
|I think the lot of u are wrong saying that 2 Fast 2 Furious sucked i thought it was one of the best films i had ever seen it had fast cars it had the girls and it had a twist to it so all of you are wrong it was the best. IF ANYONE WANTS TO SAY DIFFERENT TALK TO ME SEND ME A EMAIL TO CALMCGOWEN@HOTMAIL.COM OR CALMCGOWEN2@HOTMAIL.COM|
|it was border line alright, the guy is right the storyling is bullshit,this movi pushes these cars to limits that is hardly belivable,personally i think even though it aint real the totally computer simulated races are the best part,hardly any of that shit is real,the skyline was the only car in the first race that could sustain such power,if its fully moded it shoots nos into the engine port every time it shifts gears so that justifies the flames from the exaust pipe,truthfully themuscle cars in the movie were the only impressing vehicles,if they were to straight race or "drag" against the matchbox Evo or the toy Spyder it would have been an embarresment, the Skyline was the only car that really impressed me though but i guess PaulWalker forgot it was illegal in the U.S., damn you laws,i got one in Jamaica, i miss my GT.R(but AaronC. is right that movie is shit)|
|i have owned a various assortment of cars and i can tell you one thing....you gotta be running dangerously rich for the car to burn fuel without a flamethrower kit....it would be bad for your engine to run that rich...it would even hinder performance....the cars i have owned so far are: 2x mazda rx3's with s6 rx7 13b bridge ported motors both had single turbo conversions...one was a garrett ta45 and one was a hks t51r.....these rx3's where running 10's with pulp and 9's with avgas and both where street regod in australia.....i also owned a 1988 vl commodore with skyline rb26dett.....ran 11's street trim.....a 1991 JC eunos cosmo 20btt well worked engine built by RE amemiya in japan....car ran 11's street trim......currently i own a 70' caddy coupe deville and a plymouth barracuda v8...i would have to say that all you dicks arguing over v8's are better or jap cars are better are dick heads....i, after experiencing both, have concluded that for jap cars, theyre quick and ballsy but you dont see and jap 6's and 4's running 5 sec quarters do you....i have had a 1.3 L rotary get 756.4rwhp and had my plymouth get 986rwhp both where worked opff theyre head...both have a narrow difference in hp figures but all up both ran good times....the fastest rotary in australia is a 6.4 sec chevy with a 20b 3 rotor....i know for a fact that that bullshit aussie guy stating that the fastest stock 8 was a commodore is a total fuck head because ford have released 425kw falcons here and im almost certain they have faster production cars.....asnd 13's....fuck off a standard holden vl commodore straight 6 runds 14's stock and you reckon a v8 runs only 13's....get a car, take it out and find a ss to race and i gaurantee you wont give shit to another v8 again.....i love both v8's and all jap cars....they are both capable of good numbers but frankly all you people arguing over it are fucking losers...i stumbled across this thread trying to find what the 70' charger from the 1st film, had in it and read through this shit and i think most of you are dicks who have shit miatas and think your street racers and the only people who know theyre shit are the sensible ones stating facts not some shit they heard from theyre brothers uncles son.....so seriously get a fucking life you wankers that think they no shit but dont|
|Well, I have to Agreed to part of what he's trying to say, the street race doesn't look like the movies and you can't hit Nos like 10 thousands time either, but ebside that It's nt hard to get the car throw Flame, 'cause i have a 2004 Lancer EVO VIII and my car throw flame everytime I shift gear. What causes is to remove the CAT, I don't have a CAT i ran a straight pipe so you can smell the pure fuel burning but it's illegal as fuck. All my parts are made out of titanium. To answer everyone question yes the movie is over rated. The real car throw flame but not like in the movie. It's more like a little spark for about 1/2 to 1 second taht's all.|
|First of all you idiots spend to much time arguin'. Who cares who is right and who is wrong? Just say what you thought about the movie. Personally, the plot was horrible but overall it was pretty good.|
|u are a fucking moron i mean ricers are cool but dumb asses like you are not i rock the 69 SS camero but some of my racin buddies roll in civics but arent dumb enough like the stupid fucking people from your hick ass town are you dumb ass by the way muscle cars fucking rule|
|69 CamEro SS? I mean if you want to come off like you actually have a 25-40k dollar car, you have to ALTEAST get the name right. Its CAMARO with an A! I'm sorry, but for those privledged enough to have a 69 SS, they don't talk like that. Better luck next time "PIMPIN" 69 CamEro. Oh, BTW, matchbox cars don't count as real cars. I think HotWheels even got the spelling of the name right.|
|Who ever had said my comments are too easy *mr editor* are complete and dope sniffers!
........................HEY...........The editor must be ad aswell cool.......how did i find this out i hear you ask??? simple he is just plain sad!! my email is firstname.lastname@example.org!!!!!!
(Editor's note: Huh?)
|FUCK THE WANKERS WHO THOUGHT THE MOVIE SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who ever thought the movie sucked MUST be jealous of the cars they use (apart from the nissan skyline) but im not dissin you,you would infact no will, no no... are really sad so please just stop being sad.! And just live with the FACT THAT YOUR JUST PLAIN STUPID AND SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(Editor's note: Nah, to easy....)
|i hav an english escort which was built before the shity american 1 so ha and im sellin a motogp mini bike with gears and a custom paintjob..|
|The movie wasn't grreat but you have to remember its fiction they do all those specs so you ahve something to enjoy. If they just pulled the cars up and raced, what it look as cool? No. The movie jsut suffered from no plot. The movie even states this is not a how to, or a guide to building racing cars its all smoke and mirrors. Who would wnat flames anyway holding them too long can cause you to melt your bumper, i mean thats what i would want to do to be cool.....just think a little guys, and enjoy the movie.|
|well said sgtgto!!!! my thoughts entirely :)|
|IT DID NOT SUCK! U KNOW WAT?!? U SUCK PENISES! AND THAT MEANS UR A GAY NERD!!!!!!!!|
|First off, I must say that this post has been going on for a long long time. The movie.. was a joke. Not that it sucked, or it rocked, it was just a joke. Personally I enjoyed the muscle cars. Ricer vs. Muscle V8 vs. IL4.. you people need to drop your pre-conceived notions about everything and LEARN. Is a V8 better than a 4? YES. Displacement. Regardless of the "useage". The weight penalty only goes so far. You can bore and stroke a BB Chevy to well over 700 CI. Thats 11.4 liters to you import guys. A 700 CI engine weights LESS than a 396 CI tall deck. You can make 100 HP with a V8 or you can make 8000. You can make 50 HP with a 4, but you can't make past 3000. You can shove a V8 into a light car, just as you can a 4. They make a conversion for a Ford Focus to switch to rear wheel and V8. As for American Muscle only going straight line... WRONG. They made Trans-Am cars in the 60s.. did ya know? And you import guys like to talk your cars up, and how they handle.. using aftermarket parts. Why generalize the muscle to their stock form. Read up on Pro-Touring. Big brakes, gobs of power, lowered stance, and finely tuned suspension. They can turn PAST 1G. This is all done on 60s and 70s and even 80s iron. The "steam" in the movie are purge vavles. Nitrous BOILS at sub-zero temps. When you have nitrous in the lines all the way to the solenoids, it heats, and creates GAS. When you inject NO2 into an engine, its not GAS, its LIQUID. When you punch that button, the NO2 gas would mix with the additional fuel that is injected at the SAME TIME and create an explosive and dangerous problem in your engine. So a purge vavle does just what it says, purges the NO2 vapor from the line. They also can add little LED lights to color it. And seeing as the NO2 bottle is pressurized to atleast 700 PSI, it shoots out with a hiss. As for the flames in the exhuast. If your car shoots flames, and it does not have the kit to do so, your tuning SUCKS. You have too rich a mixture, and your timing is way off. This KILLS performance. The only time you see a "race" car do it is when it is using Nitromethane. It is explosive, and also a slow burn. Burning fuel is dumped out the exhaust and you see flames. For the import crowd... If you have a import, and it looks good (read no USELESS F-18 wing on the back) and it can ALSO PERFORM well. Good for you. You can brag all you want. You still paid someone else to do it, or bought it that way. Racing is skill, not money. For those import guys out there that actually do the work themselves (and NOT just installing a big ass muffler or a body kit), my hat is off to you. That is hot rodding. Regardless of year, engine, or nationality, its Hot Rodding. Also, if you are going to get a 4 inch muffler... upgrade the #^#&^# EXHAUST TOO! You have a 1 INCH PIPE CONNECTION TO A 5 INCH MUFFLER! For all you muscle guys. Just because you like them, don't make them better. A V8 car will NOT always out perform a import. With very few exceptions, most cars back then did not break the 14 sec ET. And they could not corner worth a damn. I know, I own one. But 2700$ will buy your way to .8 G's. Some sticky R compounds will get to to .9Gs and some other mods will get you to 1G. 1/4 miles times back then were done on their stock tires. NARROW and Bias Ply compound. New technology works both ways. Imports and Domestic. A rear wheel drive car will ALWAYS beat a front wheel drive car, if you throw enough power into it. Fastest front wheel drive drag cars i think JUST got into the 6s. Rear wheel drive cars (limited to 500 CI) are in the 3s. Weight transfers to the back, not the front. All wheel drives cant handle 1000s of HP.. yet. The biggest advantage a 60s-70s era muscle car has over an import.. speaking strictly as a gear head... space. I can damn near drop a watermelon between the engine and frame rails on my GTO. Your lucky if you can get a WRENCH between the two on a import. I know.. i've been there. The killer for muscle lovers is the price. The market is skyrocketing. New RWD V8s are way past the younger crowds price. If you want to talk shop.. level headed and respectfully feel free to email me at email@example.com.|
|honda talon and acura sucks bag
(Editor's note: Great comment. Well thought out, informative, intelligent, ground-breaking and not at all a waste of time...)
|loved the cars|
|Look....its a flucking movie!!!!!!!! No shiht they are going to add special effects! Lets put it this way..in THE HULK would some guy really get that big,green, and strong!?!? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And about more than half of you most likely don't have even a permit..............................|
|im a mechanic workin purely on dragon engines, exhaust flames come when the throttle is backed off not when some one nails it i drive a nissan 300zx which if i was to redline then change gear it will fire a burst of flames from the exhaust it isnt because the engine is over tuned or knackered it is because as someone said earlier unburned fuel hits a red hot exhaust and ignites.Now for the mist this can be acheaved by a clever little invention called co2 or if you are seriously rich do it with nos but the cylinder wont last long,I have seen it acheived by a redirection off a ordinary dump valve straight from the turbo but this only works on a cold night with lights behind it.Right now ive set you all straight and trust me im a pro.
(Editor's note: What the hell is a "dragon engine"?)
|Who gives a shit about the little rice burners there gay now some real american musscle is asome A 56 chevy with a 1970 chevelle 454 engine thatl blow the shit out of any car
(Editor's note: Any car eh? That's a pretty blanket statement. How about a Dodge Viper? Or perhaps a Ferarri Enzo? Hell, I bet my Honda Insight would be faster on an autocross course...Yet another person who just doesn't get it...)
|first off all people need to get some real knowledge before answering questions they know nothing about.The steam coming from the side of the car has nothing to do with nitrous it has to do with the blowoff valves venting excess pressure notice it does it when he revves it.Now as far as purging nitrous it has nothing to do with getting rid of old nitrous whats in the line is the same age as whats in the tank.the reason you purge is to clear the oxygen from the line if you have excess oxygen in the line this causes detonation.Which is hell on pistons.As far as import verse domestic TO EACH HIS OWN.Let it go it doesn't matter how fast you are there is always someone faster.|
|The whole flames coming out of the tail pipes is caused by non burned fuel in tail pipes ignited by a spark plug i have a 99 chevrolet truck droped to the ground rims stereo system and strait pipes without cats and a spark plug in each pipe at the end and whenever i flip the toggle switch the spark plug start's sparking and it will start to burn fumes and then give about 1,000 rpm it will blow a 10" flame out the pipes but make sure to have pipes sticking about 1" to 2" out passed bumper or it will burn the paint right off the bumper|
|Hey Cargod, american cars suck? Where the hell do you think your FORD Escort originated from......the states. If it wasnt for Henry Ford, you wouldnt have your cosworth.|
|theres gonna b a evo 9 with the stock model havin 400bhp in the uk and bout 300 in usa!!!!!|
|Yeah DD i understand you were a selfish dickhead when u were younger making you think you were king, predsident, or prime minster of the world but these days people look out for each other unless there like you
(Editor's note: People look out for each other? What kind of dream world do you live in?)
|Yeah hi erm i just got a brand new m5 and i took its limiter out well bmw did that 4 me. anyways they say itll do 200mph so that will stuff american shit any day!!! ha ha ha and it needs a bigger back spoiler to work. which i got.|
|A Ford Probe tried to race me at a green light last night. Of course I wasn't really racing him because I'm trying to get my insurance rates back down. Anyway, his car broke down in the middle of the road after he took off thinking he was a bad ass. I had a good laugh at that. Matt, give it up. What do you think you're gonna do? Make me cry? You didn't even understand what I was saying to begin with. Thanks Jesse. I'm always glad to see more people with level heads. Yeah I'll probably wake up one morning and forget all about this thread and I'll probably be happier.|
|hey guys/girls don't want to cause trouble only 14 this has probably already been said but can't be stuffed reading them all. 2 fast 2 furious sucked. btw 1. flames from the exhaust can be achieved this way buy a kit install it what this will have is a ignition switch that u throw lightin a spark plug and also divertin ur fuel to ur exhaust givin u flames. 2 steam should never come outa ur car unless u cooked the POS, BY THE WAY IT"S NOT STEAM DUMBASS, in the movie brain is purging his MOS lines of air he's all ready got a chessy airtake when u hit NOS u bloody want NOS and not damn air|
|BTW if any body still cares bout the 2f2f movie what where meant to be doing here go rent it u will see the cars being built and the actual technical director goin though each car. PS. diabetic duck ur a tit, and also 14 years old can be smart and one thing i have found as one were not all pretentous 14 year olds that try to talk like were smart where here to have a say. DD go the way of old yella ALSO IT"S A MOVIE U KNOW LOT OF BS SO WHAT IF IT SUCKED EVERYTHING ON TV DOES THESE DAYS|
|Yes, EPA laws make V8s suck big time. And Matt, if I could understand the point you were trying to make I'd love to argue with you. Something about defending 14 year olds? I was 14 once too you know and I thought I was king of the world then as well.|
|I can't believe I just read all these posts. Like the Duck guy said, I found this when I was googling for anti-riceboy and anti-fast and stupid webpages. Anyway, my take is the movies took an underground subculture and glorified it with flashy effects, pretty women, and lots of hip hop music. Hollywood makes lots of cash and the kids just love it. I'm sure in ten years there will be a special on VH1 "I Love the 00s" or something and people will ask themselves why they ever put an aluminum wing on their 1.7 liter Kia Rio.(there's a pretty funny one on cardomain.com) Or something like that. I love cars. I can't really say much more than Duck and Acura and R32GT and a few others have said because I share their opinions. I just want to say that people need to lighten up. If you disagree with what someone else has to say, be an adult and counter their point with facts of your own. And research those facts, don't quote the same figures over and over and over again either. Don't call people names, that just shows that you've gotten angry and you've already lost. Diabetic Duck, I think you're pretty cool but you really are just wasting your time here. There are far too many people only glancing over what you got to say and then firing back calling names rather than actually reading it over well.. It's so sad that THAT is the purpose for message forums but instead we always just see topics deviate into childish back and forth name calling. Car enthusiasts have been said to treat their cars like a religion. I really believe that because just like religious arguments, car arguments can go on forever, make people hate one another, and never get anywhere.|
|I read an article (Yes I read) and it said they simply removed the AWD from the 2 Queer 2 fruitious Skyline, and installed an RB25 mission. Now this is done on a regular basis (Search RB26 in 240SX google is your friend). As far as all the V8 versus import jazz, I drive a very well modified GTR and it is fun as hell to drive except for the fact that they break easily like most high revving cars and cost a fucking butt load to fix even if you do the work yourself. I like V8's, V6's hell there are some 3 cylinder cars called cappuccino's here in Japan doing 300 horsies (they are like little go karts with drop tops). Fact is if it is fast than it is fast and respect is due. If you are slow than you are slow and do not rate to talk shit. As for flames? Can I pose a question? Why would you buy a body kit worth thousands install it and pay for a nice paint job and then try to burn it down just for looks? I mean the 200.00 it would cost to do that could be spent on new fans, a pulley kit, or even a boost controller or Vtec controller (Albeit a used one but still working) bottom line is you can make more power with even one of those items, maybe one HP but it is one HP you did not have before. As for nitrous purge? Why? It cost money that could be spent better than showing off the fact you have nitrous. Like a bottle heater or a good controller or some HID lights (for the fruit in you) to make sure you can see that corner you are about to hit at a buck 50 in the middle of the night. I see alot of people on here talking alot of shit but not backing it up with anything other than more shit. Grant it a few on here really do know their shit and they know who they are, but posers will know they are posersw all of the time as they are the ones that see the blinking lights when they get stomped and wonder why their nitrous purge kit did not make them faster. Fact is ----- Any car is fast with enough money. My GTR only puts down 280PS to the wheels in stock trim although it is more than that now ask me how much it cost me. I will tell you over 15,000.00 My buddies Cobra SVT that he has with him here in Japan (He also sold me the GTR) has an intake and borla exhaust. Even launches (I get traction and no slippage) in a dead straight, HE beat me at over 120MPH we were close but again I have over 15,000.00 in modifications and he spent maybe 600.00 just for shits and giggles. Now as far as import verse domestic, who gives a shit? If it is fast let's race. If you are slow race someone slower than you:) Thats just my two cents oh and for the Aussie guys that were talkjing shit I read fast fours too, read the whole article before you pop off at the mouth. The fastest GTR in Australia has more money it's stroker kit than most V-8's that are faster than him have in their entire car and I love GTR's but it is just the truth. Reference your EPA laws for why your V-8's suck so much ass from the factory.|
|I think I'm cool? When did I say that? lol Whatever "listen up", just whatever. I"m just here having a good time debating my opinion with everyone. I haven't came down on anyone except people that show a complete lack of capacity for abstract thought. You hate the movie too, so why can't we get along? I bet you're a previous poster using a different name because you're upset. Again, welcome to the anonymous world of the internet. I really don't care what you say or think about me just so long as you have read what I have had to say about cars. You imagine me as being 300 pounds, pathetic, living with my parents, no gf, and my word that I"m 160, outgoing, have my own house, am married will just be lost because in the end IT REALLY DOES NOT MATTER. If someone says something retarded, I"m sorry I just gotta bark back. It's fun. Anyway, yeah Acura RSX, I was looking at those cars too. A V10 Toyota supercar would really wake a lot of people up.|
|Oh yeah, Skylines are pretty awesome cars. And I"m glad we'll be getting the new ones pretty soon. But can we stop comparing them to 1960's Muscle Cars? It's like saying "I'm such a badass because I can run for 20 minutes straight on the treadmill and grandpa can't! OWNED!!!!" Yeah ok whatever...............................................Anyway, just wanna point out what I already have about the engine displacement argument. It's no longer valid because there are so many different applications and ways to generate power from engines anymore that its really only a matter of driving preference and need. Do you like taking it easy and not having to rev the hell outta your engine to get power? Get a V6 or V8. Do you like doing more with less and don't mind revving your engine to 8000 RPMs to get peak horsepower because you only have 130lb ft of torque? A good 4cylinder is right for you. And then there is turbocharging and supercharging and valve timing and induction timing and all that good stuff. They are all good. It all depends on the car and the application. If gas cost 5cents a gallon we'd probably all have and love V10s that revved to 18,000 RPMS (read: Formula 1) People that think that one particular engine design is supreme and all others void are obviously not looking at things in a wholistic perspective. Large displacement engines = towing power, low end grunt, easier to drive at low speeds, generate power mostly from torque and gearing.... Small displacement engines = fuel economy, high-revving, generate power mostly from engine revolutions and gearing... Something like that. Of course there are exceptions, like the Formula One engines. And if V8s and such were so obsolete and not needed then why do trucks still need large displacement engines? The answer is torque, but hybrid engine technology might soon change that. I can't wait to see what happens there because it could mean a big difference in energy costs but I suppose that is drifting to a different topic........................................................... Any American car from the 70s and a lot of the 80s really shouldn't be compared on a performance level to modern cars. I can't believe I've forgotten to bring this up. With new energy standards and pollution guidelines, cars took major performance hits and everything pretty much sucked during this period. We're talking 250horse Vettes and 140horse Porsches. And the Japanese cars were for the most part, of course, just little 90,100, 110 horse powerplants back then. AGain, I've said it too many times already, but the 60's muscle cars (and 50's hot rods) were awesome in their day and the high performance Japanese cars we have now were not even thought of yet back then.***The cars that have similar horsepower figures to a lot of those old muscle cars are now very expensive and gasoline prices are only getting higher.*** Please reread that last sentence because it is very important. So yeah, smaller engines with forced inductions are definantly, in my opinion, the future of hot rods. But ricing is a phenom I wish would end soon. Put that money under the hood where it belongs.|
|I think Duck is just trying to keep the argument here balanced, otherwise it would be all "American cars suck because they can't turn and my Japanese car with modified engine can outrun the stock V8 car that is 40 years old blah blah blah" All in all, I think he is very level headed and well-informed. Completely opposite from 80 percent of the posters in this particular thread that just blurt out whatever their friends have apparantly told them or they read in some BIASED magazine. Okay people, yes we know old american V8 cars are fast and go straight pretty well and new imports can turn or something or whatver you keep arguing. Yes we KNOW that Nissan Skylines are badass. But you people are forgetting that Skylines are EXPENSIVE. I don't see them doing anything a Chevy Corvette or a BMW M3 couldn't do save keep traction in the snow. lol Have you even taken it upon yourselves to go out and test drive a variety of different cars and find out how they really handle and drive??? I emailed Duck and I know for a fact that he spends time test driving all kinds of different cars and writing about them. I think the fact that he hasn't even begun to brag about his job or what he does for fun is testament to just how sensible he is here. A lot of you seem to drive some import and only read IMPORTS BIASED R US magazines and form your opinions based on that. First, start readin unbiased magazines that sample a large portion of cars. I suggest Automobile or MotorTrend. Then go drive a Dodge SRT-4 or a Chrysler 300. If you're lucky, drive a new GTO or Corvette. Maybe a new Mustang or the previous Focus SVT. You'll find out real quick that performance is readily available in all cars these days. Duck has tried real hard to point that out but noone seems to be listening to him. Its been said here and I'll repeat it: No car company is stand alone anymore. American companies share parts and designs with European and Asian companies and vice versa and in between and all that. The old days are gone. Pretty soon, there will be Chinese cars on the market and what will we argue about them? Ford owns Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, and Land Rover but why do people still say Ford cars suck and Mazda cars are better even though they share platforms and parts bins? Mitsubishi and Chrysler were strategic partners before Chrysler even merged with Mercedes-Benz and why do people assume a Mitsubishi Eclipse is better than an Eagle Talon because one is Japanese nameplate and one is AMerican even though they are the same car built in the same factory in Illinious? The Mitsubishi Galant and the Dodge Stratus/Chrysler Sebring(Cirrus) STILL share the same platform. Mitsubishi even has a truck coming out that is just a rebadged Dodge Dakota. And see, like Duck said, a lot of people don't even know that or care to know that but then they claim to be "car tuning experts" and mouth off about how much better their car is or some trash or put "Made in Japan" stickers on cars built in North America, etc etc. Toyota has even sold the Chevrolet Cavalier under their own nameplate in Japan for some time now. Don't believe me? Google it. Google all this. Funny that so many "Japanese Car Experts" don't know this. Again, its because they read some tuner magazine and think the automotive world revolves around Japan. I"m sorry, but the automotive world revolves around nothing but itself. All these companies are in it for money and while they compete with one another, they are all in it together and thats why you see mergers and buyouts and product sharing. Try reading about the Geneva Auto Shows or the NOrth American Auto Shows or even the CHinese Auto Shows sometimes and not just what is going on in Japan. Yeah the Japanese auto market IS a very interesting segment with many great products but there are many great products just about everywhere you look. Any true automotive enthusiast can appreciate a car for its merits nomatter where it was built. He drives it first, judges it second. Sees its performance before talking about it. Everyone else is just bench racing. Howl and flame all you want, I'll be with Duck OFF THE BENCH.
(Editor's note: I've said it before and I'll say it again: IT IS NOT ABOUT IMPORT VS. DOMESTIC. How difficult is that to understand?)
|I assure you "Listen Up" that I'm here for reasons other than an ego boost. People have to actually know who you are before they can give you any kind of credit or gratification that would lead to ego boosting. You don't know my name, my address, my occupation, or my wife's name. I only mentioned my education as a joke to someone else's post. Apparantly you didn't read the previous posts to get the joke or just outright comprehended it as pompousness. Also, I DID mention my cars. I guess you didn't catch them. A 1997 Eagle Talon and a 2005 Mini Cooper. Nothing too powerful, nothing too fancy. Though the Mini is just too cute for its own good. Pretty much, Aaron is the only one here that has to be held accountable for his actions because we know where he lives, what he drives, and what he looks like. Heh. But a site owner can do whatever he pleases and an anonymous poster can say as he wishes. I know you told me not to respond to you, but not having a life and nothing better to do, I decided to post a whole bunch anyway. *smile smile* Now YOU listen, I love cars. I love talking about cars. I love debating car stuff. I love driving cars. I love working on cars. I'd rather sit here and post on my few favorite webpages dealing with cars than spend it wasting my life to television or video games. This is what I do. You don't know me, Aaron doesn't know me, so why should it matter? If the occasional person jumps on here and makes a ridiculous claim or statement, I"m sorry I'm gonna call him out on his bluff but I KNOW it won't get me anywhere. I've chosen to remain in this particular forum because it shows up on google pretty easily and I"m hoping to change as many people's perspective of the automotive industry as I can. People need to appreciate more than just what Import Tuner and Hollywood tell them to. So far, the only person to email me (YES I LIST A REAL ADDY) is Acura-RSX. We have talked like rational people and I really enjoy having conversations about cars with anyone so long as they leave the dogma at the door. I too can be wrong and I like being proven wrong.|
|Aaron, I understand you loud and clear! While the topic isn't necessarily about imports and domestics, it has inevitably gone there with people bashing each other's preference in cars. Me and Duck was just trying to get people to look at everything. Reread my post. Obviously I'm downplaying that an actual Import vs Domestic situation can even exist.|
|i'm from England, and everyone here knows that American V8 muscle cars are fast in a straight line but they can't take corners for shit, when you make cars like Aston Martin, TVR, Lotus and Bentley then you can comment on fast cars, and by the way my 900bhp skyline will thrash any V8 1/4 mile in 10 seconds bitches, check it out in March 05 fast car UK.|
|FUCK YOU ukchevy FUCKIN WANKER cars from america are pieces of shit!!!!!!! jap cars have a good rep unlike usa musclecars.!!!!!!!!!! and i have an highly modifyed rs cosworth escort so up yours!!!!!! i had it 175mph on a track so get stuffed
(Editor's note: Yet another well thought out and educated opinion...next...)
|This is interesting: The 2007 Toyota Supra is likely going to have a V10 or a V8. This comes as no surprise as Toyota's Formula One V10 is a strong contender. I'm hoping this fact will shut a lot of Japcaraholics up about the superiority of small displacement engines. Also, the next Nissan Skyline will come here as an Infiniti branded car and will have either a V8 or a turbo V6.|
|In Japan laws governed the amount of hp nissan were allowed to produce in the gtr skylines. (280hp) My friend has a 1969 mustang thats currently pushing out 450hp at the rear wheels. Its great for doing burn outs in and goes hard if you get the power down. GTR skylines have been built that push out more than 1000hp and are good for around 450hp with bolt on accessories using the standard internals. The HICAS awd system on the skyline allows power to be distributed through all 4 wheels = more traction = faster times. In japan, last time I checked an r32 skyline ran 8.18sec 1/4 mile. Now thats pretty quick.It means you can do a high rev take off but its murder on drive chain, (as its pre loaded) clutch/gearbox etc. Serious drag GTRs (skylines) modify the HICAS system so as to allow them to select 2wd as well. This allows the driver to do a burnout laying rubber as a take off pad warming tyres in the process to allow for a better takeoff. Once this is done 4wd is reselected. The No2 (I refuse to call it "NOS" as thats a name of a company) purging (as said by others) it used to clear out old vapour and residual air from the plumbing system prior to a race. Pressurising the system reduces lag and gives whats known as a "hot shot" (should be cold shot lol) of No2 through the intake. The skyline in the movies purge system was set up obviously for the "wow factor" blowing out on 2 sides and has had the desired effect judging by responses on this website. The exhaust bit, well, no comment, It doesnt matter how they made the effect, it was a bit of a cheese factor lol. The movie itself was pretty cheesy, I loved some of the one liners though and the fight scenes were a little more realistic. Convertables and such are over the top. The bridge scene, total holliwood but who cares it was funny watching a midair overtaking manouver. Why you guys get all cut up over v8 vs 4's is beynd me. The GTR is actually a 2.6L twin turbo straight 6 double overhead camed motor but don't let that stop you :) Different cars with different uses who cares everyone is different. What I think is funny was Ja Rule (stupid name lol) in the first movie. He's got absolutely no idea at all. He hasnt even got any confidence delivering his lines. Might be worth getting a bit of subject knowldge before delivering lines like "hes got enough Nos there to blow himself up." (Im sure he was looking at the intercooler as he said that).|
|I for one think that the movie had a good plot but there wern't any bitches in it like the first one but you win some you loose some but the thing i don't get is why you're so ignurant on things on cars there are cars that spit flames if you watched the special features in the dvd you wold know that but you didn't but it's cool so i sign off as saying fuck all of you and this stupid page i hope you al get a virous on you're computers and they all crash.|
|I gotta say this is a damn cool site, one I will definitely put in my favorite folder, but with every web site there has to be a problem. The only problem I have found on this site so far is, moronic, egotiscal people who abuse this guys forum for thier own personal gratification. LISTEN UP DIABETIC DUCK! Get a life and quit using a forum about about how retarted 2 fast 2 furious was, to self gratify your obviously, undeniably, lame and uneventful life. Look we all know that you were the kid in school who would always wear t-shirts with pictures of random animals printed on them. its ok you dont have actual people as friends other than your hand. now i know that you gonna come back with something so powerful and say something about how you are some kind of genius in the car world and how you have have a "degree in psychology" (graduating from a school on the internet that doesn't exist doesn't count) and that you have all these cars that are so fast and how I'm some ignorant 13 year old who has no education or knowlage. Please have some respect for the fact that this guy even post's your, petty, self proclaimd success bullshit every time you feel you need a ego boost. THIS IS NOT A CHAT ROOM. i can assure you "DIABETIC DUCK" i will not respond to whatever lame ass reply you have to my submission to this FORUM because we all know you will.oh yeah, I almost forgot, watching that movie was the biggest waste of time i have ever spent, next to reading diabetic ducks analogy on how cool he is. Keep up the kick ass work on the site aaron.|
|I feel that you talk too much yet know so little kid. I am a true Japanese car enthusiast. I was born in Japan. Yokohama to be precise. Anyhow, I live in the U.S. now. But when I grew up in Japan, I was surrounded by cars. From EG-6s (old-school Civic HBs) to BNR-34s (Skyline GT-R34s). So needless to say, I know shit boy.
I currently own 4 Japanese thoroughbreds. A Mazda RX-7 Touge-Spec (Type-R), a Toyota Supra RZ (JZA-80), A Honda NSX-Zero, and a Nissan Skyline GT-R NuR Spec. All of them retain their factory/stock looks. However, don't fuck with me or I'll roast your big-mouth with the flames from my muffler. Flames come out of the exhaust tip for two reasons. Sudden closure of the throttle due to rapid decelaration for one, and two, a very rich air-fuel mixture would cause unburned fuel to escape through the exhaust ports. These unburned fuel ignites near the end of the muffler tip due to high temps. N2O also causes flames. Maybe I should set you on fire huh? Bitch. Anyhow, with regards to you "American Muscle," you need to know the difference between "Fat" and "Muscles." Lemme put something in your empty brain (do you even have one punk?). Fat defines your Detroit Iron, while muscles define the pure-sport that the Japanese cars are. Fat is worthless, while muscles perform. AND THERE GOES YOUR KEYWORD FUCKER!!! PERFORMANCE!!! Detriot Iron cars are meant to go fast with their gas guzzling, big-block, heavy-ass, V8s. The Japanese thoroughbreds on the other hand, are rcae-inspired, and designed to go fast both or straights turns. Your V8 monsters would kiss the wall at 100 mph if you try to make a turn. Well, NASCAR is a good representative for your American Muscle. But hey, WHO THE FUCK WOULD WANT You A RACE-CAR THAT ONLY TURN LEFT!!! FUCK YOU!!! You Detriot Iron driver lost his balls when he raced The Lancer Evo! IT'S NOT A FUCKIN' MR-2!!! Fuck boy! Educate yourself! You're embarrasing yourself all over the world man!
Not all import racers race Honda Civics fucker. No offense to Civic racers. But seriously, it's a disgarce to the Japanese thoroughbreds if someone is thinking that "Ricers" race on Honda Civics! And FUCK YOU BIRD BRAIN! I am asian but I know how to eat salads, pasta, and beans too! Just because I am Japanese, or any other Oriental for that matter doesn't mean we eat ONLY rice. I'll shove my Apexi N1 Exhaust up you tiny, tight ass fucker! SUCK MY DICK BIATCH!!!
(Editor's note: Included only because it's so funny. Read it a few times.)
|Actually I don't know what the hell I'm talking about because I only talk to the mexicans at the AutoZone who tell me what to buy for my Nissan Sentra. I wasn't really born in Japan. I just fantasize that I was because I have a huge asian fetish and I love Japanese women and anime. And I do want to stick something up your tite ass but not an exhaust pipe if you know what I mean. *wink wink*
(Editor's note: Wow, you're cool...)
|Besides NASCAR, we have CART and Formula 1 in North America as well as a variety of races. Everything else you said is irrelevant because its all been said by all teh same sad sad people. You're comparing new cars to old cars. New Mustangs, Corvettes, Vipers, even the Dodge SRT-4 and CHrysler 300C have no problem running and cornering with those cars you mentioned. I think you're just another 14 year old with an asian fetish.|
|I cant even dignify an intelligent response for you people. If you knew anything about, well, ANYTHING you would'nt waste two hours of your life watching such a pathetic excuse for a relation to the automotive racing industry. I now feel that I have lost intelligence having just wasted five minutes of my life reading and now responding to a meeting hall for ignorant people who cant figure out that you should have some kind of knowledge before they speak your so called "mind". I apologize for having wasted your precious masturbating time with your internet girlfriends. sincerely, the only person here who has gone to school. (obviously)|
|"astonished at such ignorance" if your gonna diss someone, do it without making yourself sound like a pretentous 14 year old that tries to talk like he's smart but leaves noone in doubt that he is in fact a fool obviously, you've also watched the movie if you know it is a "pathetic excuse for a relation to the automotive racing industry" if that sentence makes sense sincerely, a person with an associates degree in computer networking and a bachelor's degree in psychology thank you very much|
|I said "The Getaway" in an earlier post. I meant "The Italian Job." Yeah the first race was extremely exagerated. Especially since it took 10 minutes in the movie to run a supposedly 10 to 12 second race. LOL|
|ok there were a couple nice cars here and there, Skyline(J-Mod) is pretty nice and same with the Evo(wasn't US legal, only evo 8 is)both are potential rally cars, however half the stupid shit they pull is exactly what you DON"T want to do, the sound systems, the flame ejectors out the pipes, the dumbass lights, they all add weight to your car. When your racing weight is exactly what you DON"T WANT!!!! its so stupid! also the first race was very exaggerated, if you watched their tachs and what they were doing they would have wrecked in real life, i'd like to see anybody take a hairpin turn at 120-150mph in a supra, couldn't be done!!! if you want real racing watch a rally, hill climbing takes balls, they acutally are going really really fast along cliffs and hair pin turns...Street racing is for crappy drivers, go to driving school and they'll laugh at how sucky a driver you are, try SCCA you''ll get crushed. btw i have two v-8s and a 4 cyl. turbo, all over 200 bhp stock, my friend is obsessed with riced out shit and my WEAK CARS blow them away.|
|Of course the flames are fake in the movies. Most of it is fake. All the races and in-car scenes with the actors are done on a computer or filmed on a virtual car platform (car frame with hydraulics) and a blue screen. All the sounds of course are dubbed over and someone pointed out to me that they didn't hardly bother to get exhaust notes right on most of the cars in the movies. Hell, they didn't even get engines right. The first movie claimed that Paul Walker's green Eclipse is a GS-T. Even the promotional toy cars and merchandise called it a GS-T. But in the movie when his hood is popped I see a 420A non-turbo Chrysler engine blaring at me. The GS-T has the 4g63 Mitsubishi turbo engine. They look completely different. And they call it a $80,000 car in the movie. What the hell did they spend $80,000 on??? It's not even the AWD Eclipse. I read that it was actually 3 base model Eagle Talons and Mitsubishi Eclipses that they got and riced them all out the same and they used 1 to blow up, 1 for whole car in scenes Paul wasn't driving it, and 1 for the hydrualic blue screen car and to be pulled by a truck for some other crap. Something like that. I know all this because I thought it was hilarious how far they went to make a movie about rice and made rice of their own. Even the Dodge Charger's blower was fake. Then again, so was Mad Max's and noone cared. Ah yes, the Mad Max movies. Dirty beat-up high-power V8 cars crashing into crap and tearing up some asphalt. No pansy-ass flashy-paint dub wheels plastic cars.|
|wow im impressed by how many nieve guys are out there that actually think they are learning a thing or two from watching movies like these. first of all if you want a car to come anywhere near 10 sec on the track... dont buy a f*cking rice burner. second those flames comming out the exhaust is probably computerized... what can i say its hollywood. you didnt actually think the white house was blown to pieces by an alien space craft in the movie independence day do you? but in some cases like the old mercurys.... people did rig up the exaust with a spark plug to cause the excess fuel to ignite... get a life people!!!! and keep it American!|
|Gothonda, just have the engine rebuilt and just drive it for what it is- economy car. Save all the money you save on gas and get a Mini Cooper S or something. And you can't just swap to a different head and magically have two camshafts, there is far too many internal parts involved as well as the crankshaft timing and the rerouting of the timing belt- in other words NO NO NO. You can't reengineer an entire engine from the outside in, contrary to what 80% of all Honda "tuners" think. My wife's Mini Cooper will outhandle the Rx-7, the Insight, AND the Nova!!!!and outrun, uhh, the Insight :-) Seriously though, for around $20,000 you can not get a better new car in terms of all around quality. Nothing in this car feels or is cheap. And see while all the ricers are piled into the Slow and Stupid movies, Mini gets The Getaway to itself.|
|(Editor's note: Betcha' it doesn't handle as well as my bone stock Honda Insight, let alone my RX-7...)
lol probably not but itll more than make up for it on the straights! :)
(Editor's note: Exactly how many straights are there in the typical autocross course? And I'm also willing to bet that my RX-7 won't have any issues with it in the straights either...)
|Reading hear i found out people dont like or what ever civics just a little kid car well oki'm 27 i've had plenty of different v-8's 4cl just thount this would be fun I just bought a 91 civic 3dr 1.6 si for a gas saver to drive to work bad motor but the price was right now i plan to build this motor to handle the highest rpms and run as fast as possible i'm asking for ideas and lived and learn information on what to do to this car like spec's on crank, rods, type of pistions, no2 possiblely used on ,cam i dont have a dual over head can i get a different head with dual cams? i dont know please know send your what ever to who ever they do a great job i just want to know whats good what it takes to make this little baby fly thanks hikfromthestick
(Editor's notes: Try one of the thousands of Honda performance forums. That is, if you can stand the fact that they are mostly populated by 15 year olds with an IQ about equivelant do the displacement of their engines...)
|cargod have you ever driven a REAL car? i drive a 1965 chevy nova 5.7 and it drives and handles as good as any modern jap shite! its not all down to the cars handling but as much the driver
AINT NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES!
(Editor's note: Betcha' it doesn't handle as well as my bone stock Honda Insight, let alone my RX-7...)
|70 chevelle 454 550hp your a big wanker/dick shaft american cars are bilt like shit so r english cars but cars from england can turn and stop unlike an american pile of fuck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And just for the case the american musclecars in 2 f 2 f culd only turn because the were modifyed
(Editor's note: Does that even make sense? English please, people...)
|Yeah cardomain is full of posers and ricers who spend way too much money on tacky cosmetic junk. I always love the ones that pull out seats and stuff to save 3 pounds and then put in 100 pounds of audio equipment. I just read about the ACR package and Stage 3 turbo upgrade for the Dodge Neon SRT-4. Over 300 horsepower and torque to match for just around a $5000 premium over the stock price. THATS JUST FIVE GRAND IN FACTORY BACKED MODS to have a car thats actually fast as heck. I usually laugh at front-wheel drive cars with so much horsepower but the limited-slip differential actually makes the SRT-4 drivable. And its an american car! I'm using this as an example for what can be done when you spend money on real power modifications. You could spend $5000 on a body kit, stickers, wing, wheels, and other junk or you could spend the money on the engine and have a car that is actually fast.|
|I don't even know why you post Cargod's comments. It's obviously an adolescent just trying to be a little pill. I drive an Eagle Talon, which was built in America just like all the Eclipses because Chrysler designed half the car. Built in Normal, Illinois by red blooded hard working capitalist pig americans. It can turn, it can stop, it can go, and I have not had any major reliability issues either. Sales reports show that Ford is the biggest car company in Britain.|
|I seriously doubt 17inch wheels would fit on a Geo Metro. That 4inch muffler isn't worth scoffing at because Duck has done a good job of that already. I love how ricers, especially on cardomain.com, always list a bunch of cosmetic atrocities as their "mods" and says they have more on the way. And it's always something big like a turbo or an engine swap that you KNOW they will never do or that they should have done in the first place. What I see usually looks something like this: ......................................................................................................................................................................................... " 1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS non-turbo automatic estimated horsepower: 265 1/4 mile time: 11secs Yo check out my ride you bitches. This tite azz 1998 Eclipse RS got the Samurai Kamikaze Shinobi body kit. It was $6000 yo. It got the $4000 paint job from my friends down at Mad Tite Mexican Customs. I got racing seats, 18 inch MOMO wheels straight from Japan and wrapped in Pirelli rubber, APC aluminum wing, APC altezza taillights, and clear turn signal lights. I got color matching plug wires on the engine and a $200 AEM cold air intake that gives me 35 horsepower. I got a computer chip mod I got off ebay for $40. It gives me 40 horsepower. The $200 Greddy exhaust system frees me up another 50 horses. You bitches wished your car was this fast you punks. I took out the back seat and a lot of the interior plastics to get rid of some weight. Then I put in my $500 Alpine DVD head unit and hooked it up to my two amps. A Rockford Fosgate 1000watt for my 4 Alpine 12" subs and a 500watt Rockford Fosgate amp for my two tweeters, two 6", and two 6x9" Alpine speakers. I painted the interior plastics on the dashboard and stuff to match my tite azz paint job. Got a MOMO steering wheel, that was $100, and I got a APC tachometer on my dash. My hood has a picture of a generic anime character and some japanese symbols that I don't know what they mean. I think puppy and caterpillar or something cuz thats what this one azn punk told me. I got Enkie springs and shocks and I lowered the car to 1 inch off the ground. Whoever decided to put speed bumps in every parking lot was a dumbass. I'll have my boys kill that mother if we ever find out who he is. I got some leet stickers as you can see. "Got NOS?" and "Powered by Mitsubishi" are on both sides of the car on the rear. The front has my mod stickers like MOMO and APC and AEM and Alpine. My window tint is dual layer 5% tint. It is dark as f$%)!!!! Can't nobody see me when I'm driving around town with 3 bitches and doing whatever I want. More mods coming soon. I hope to get a turbo kit sometime soon or put a 100 shot of NOS in it. Maybe I'll do an Eclipse GS-T JDM engine swap. Should I? You can vote on it in my viewer poll! ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... Yup,see crap like that ALL the time.|
|my car should be in the next fast and the furious. i have a 1994 geo metro with 17 in rims, 4 in muffler, and bucket seat. more mod on the way like a b20 from a prelude si.|
|Whats all this business about car's turning? All ricers do is drag race so why does it matter? heh heh Seriously though, I think all modern cars do a mighty fine job of accelerating, braking, and turning. If someone owns an old muscle car that unfortunately has four-wheel drum brakes and a stone age suspension, guess what, they can spend a few bucks changing out their brakes to discs and getting a better suspension setup instead of spending all the money on stickers and fake exhausts and placebo air intakes. I mean its a dead argument to say a 40 year old road warrior can't handle like a modern economy bucket. Well duh, its because suspension technology has come a long way. Heavy SUVs and trucks stop faster and have smaller turning radius' than old cars and that alone really outlines the deadness of this argument. But, if you like to drag race, which is what these dumb movies and sub-culture are all about, a Hemi Charger (supercharged or not, nitrous or not) and any car of comparable performance is gonna accelerate down a straight line like nobody's business. We're talking 400,500,600, hell, 800 horsepower or more here. No turbo lag, no freaking torque steer, no computer chip mods. Raw, unadulterated power. A Honda Civic, or whatever other cheap car you wanna offer, even with legitimage power modifications won't match. You will torque steer your front-wheel drive economy car straight into a wall before you match that. The meager exhaust gases produced by a sub 2 liter four-cylinder could never even power the turbos needed to match a high performance V8 engine. Even at 300 horses we're talking major turbo lag for a four banger. Don't anyone mention Toyota Supra. I've seen several with the estimated 900 horsepower and they all had turbo lag slow as Christmas. On a modern level of performance cars and muscle cars, things have changed a bit. Gas prices and gas guzzler taxes have made performance cars change quite a bit. Turbocharged fours are actually a good choice for affordable performance but are limited by a threshold for gas mileage and turbo lag time. At a certain point, its just dumb to have a turbocharged four (or five if your Volvo) that gets 15mpg or less and takes 5000 rpms to spool the turbo. Its cheaper and more reliable to have a bigger engine altogether. The new Mustang GT is probably the best value in 300horse V8s. The CHrysler 300C and Dode Magnum RT are priced about $30,000 and are essentially family cars but will still make a boy in his $40,000 "tricked out" Civic cry for mommy. The Chevy Corvette has become synonomous with middle class man's supercar with performance to back up that claim. The Dodge Viper carries on the Dodge tradition of crap in your pants speed. And, guess what, that sumbitch can turn. At this point I'm getting into supercars. We're talking 8, 10 and 12 cylinder exotics that get terrible gas mileage with insurance rates higher than what a lot of people pay for their cars, but go extremely fast, turn extremely well, and then stop extremely easily. Just of note for the ricers, these cars have high cylinder count engines. Ok ok, Acura NSX. Ppppppbbbbb. 290 horsepower. blah Honda set out to make a V6 mid-engine rear wheel drive exotic car that returns moderate gas mileage. Typical Honda, and a neat prospect, but now its the coupe de grace for ricers everywhere. Anyway, I'm not a street racer and I'm a courteous driver that doesn't drive like a maniac. I like well rounded cars that have performance if I need it and handle well for those smile-inducing curvy roads. I'm getting a new car in July when I get a better job and I"ve narrowed them down to five. Maybe my choices will better outline what taste I have in cars. It might surprise you. 1. Ford Mustang GT 2. Mazda3s 3. Volvo S40 T5 AWD 4. Subaru Impreza WRX (not STI) 5. Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution RS (the one without that god-ugly wing) -all with manual transmissions and my decision will come after test driving them all repeatedly and deciding what the best value is for gas mileage, the price of gas, insurance rates, and finance rates.|
|I was arguing with a ricer the other day about engines. He was talking about how his dual overhead cams and VTEC and air intake on his Civic basically work like a turbo to push more air into his engine. And he said his fartpipe dual exhaust freed up more horsepower. I didn't know to laugh or punch him. Ok, 1. to my knowledge, overhead cams free up having too many moving parts and do let the engine breathe a bit better and dispel exhaust better. The main thing to know here is that a DOHC inline four has the same amount of overhead camshafts as a SOHC V6 or V8. The overhead cam corresponds to each row of cylinders, a V engine or boxer (flat horizontally opposed) engine havine two rows of cylinders. So, a DOHC V engine actually has 4 cams. It sort of makes the whole DOHC inline fours are high-tech argument obsolete. The 1985 Volvo 244 I used to have had a SOHC. I loved that car. Rear-wheel drive and solid rear axle but it still cornered like a go-cart and had 4-wheel disc brakes. 2. VTEC is just computer-controlled cam-timing and valve-duration that makes an otherwise gutless engine feel like its got some balls. It is NOT forced induction (turbocharging and supercharging) in any way. It creates a flatter power curve and makes a low-torque engine easier to drive at low RPMs. 3. All these cold air intakes everyone is trying to sell are just placebo effect money-holes. Unless you're directing air from outside your hood, its not cold air intake. Most are just short pipes that are still sucking air from behind your radiator. Just getting a K&N replacement filter for your stock setup is cheaper and just as effective. If you must have a REAL cold air intake at least its still not a complete waste of money because it will let your engine rev a little better but power increases are minimum. Engines that actually need lots of air already have cool air systems stock. High performance V8s will usually have some form of ram air or a way to direct cooler air from outside the car. 4. Ok, dual exhausts on a four-cylinder is already pretty silly but for cosmetic purposes on turbocharged models is ok I suppose. But to have huge fartcan exhausts on a 120 horsepower engine is overkill. The exhaust manifold on an inline four only has four small pipes. If you were to truly break it up into two exhaust pipes, you end up with barely enough gas for it to matter. Most of these dual exhaust mods are fake though with the pipes splitting in the back of the car. Civics come with puny itty bitty exhaust pipes stock. If all they had to do is put 4inch exhaust on to get 50 more horses, don't you think Honda would have done it???? There is something called backpressure that is a factor when a manufacturer determines what size exhaust piping to put on a car. A certain amount of backpressure allows for optimum torque and gas mileage for the engine in the stock form. Without actually increasing the performance level of the engine (like forced induction for example), putting a larger exhaust on it or splitting an exhaust from an inline four engine into dual exhaust will reduce your torque, and even if you squeeze five horsepower out of it, the loss in torque will hurt you more. Putting big dual exhausts on a V8 or V6 is more understandable because you probably won't miss the amount of torque lost. And then there are the people that put just the large diameter fake muffler on the back of the stock tiny itty bitty exhaust system. It's not as severe in torque loss but there's no real horsepower gain either and it sounds very annoying. Ok, in summary. Overhead Cams are not space-age technology. Valve Timing such as VTEC is nothing like forced induction. The 50 extra horsepower you feel from your $150 cold air intake is all in your head. Your hurting your four-cylinder car with your huge exhaust and hurting everyone else's ears.|
|Hey cargod, thats the only way one of those little japcars will keep up with the REAL american musclecars.(yenko's, motion's, berger's) the only way! :)
(Editor's note: By turning? I'd like to see the "REAL american musclecars" turn or stop like even a base model Honda Civic, let alone a real sports car like the RX-7...)
|The movie sucked. It was not even a real hemi challenger, and same with the yenco. Each individual has their own specific preference with style; however, be respectful to one anothers choice. There is absolutely no need for the bashing. The movie was set up for mindless entertainment, and it did not even do that. The consistant manipulation of the film made it a horrible movie. The worst part about the movie is that people went out and tried to do it, like some 5 year old acting like a power ranger after he saw the movie. Please for all the individuals out there that are not able to accept reality, and have an iq of 2 below plant life, Please, PLEASE, DON'T REPRODUCE!|
|Who ever thinks its suked is a fukin wankshaft i mean the evo viii had 150,000 spent on it now if a car has that much spent on it in a movie it would have to be GREATER THAN GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! acuraRSX-S driver your a tit!!!!!
(Editor's note: I rest my case.)
|the editor is a very well thought out person especiely wen he sed i rest my case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111|
|THERE IS "NO" SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES!! ENUFF SAID!!!!!|
|Movies like The Slow and the Stupid give people that drive Japanese cars a bad image. There are some of us, like me with an Acura RSX Type-S, that keep our cars tasteful and don't put anythign dumb on them like spoilers or fake cold air intakes that really don't do crap. People in their Hondas and Acuras always wanna talk to me like I'm one of them. Sorry I"m not a little ricer fag who thinks his AEM air intake gives him 50 horsepower. Crap, it doesn't even give 5. I like my car because of its reliability and its fun to driveI. Six speed manual!!!! Screw your slushbox automatics! don't have to race to prove the length of my penis or the size of my balls. And even if I was a racer, I know that a Camaro SS, a BMW M3, or a Mustang GT is about to hand my head to me. Sure I can spend more money on my car than I payed for it to make it compete with said cars, but then I'd be a douchebag that just spent $40,000+ on an Acura that is still, well, an Acura and not, say, a Corvette.. Brett, you need to just hush it because Duck has you pinned. Geez, maybe he doesn't know much about Hondas and Acuras, but he seems to really know enough like that the Type-R Civics you've seen were probably brought in from France or Taiwan. He's just trying to point out that the movies make people think that their cars can do things they really can't. He mentions that you have to work on your car to keep racing it and you come out talking about building an engine that you dont' have to look at. That's just dumb man. Any man that loves his car and races his car or drives the piss outta it is gonna be checking that engine every freaking chance he gets to make sure his baby ain't hurting. I'm pretty sure that's the point Duck was trying to make. Nitrous is a dumb argument for beating anything anyway. It's like cheating on a test or using a hack on an online game. You can only use that power for short periods of time and then rarely safely. I want an engine that gives me power when I need it all the time and even my Acura disapoints me some times. I drove a 2005 Mustang GT the other day and I'm in love. I'm willing to give up some miles per gallon for some torque, something Honda engines lack. And rear wheel drive feels so much different from front-wheel drive. I really like it and there really is no argument for front-wheel drive except added safety in snow and its cheaper to make. Plus, any horsepower figure over 250 really should be going to the rear wheels. I have a friend with a 98 Turbo Eclipse FWD that upgraded his turbo and now all he does is spin his wheels all the time. Anyway, back to the movies. Paul Walker is a douchebag and I want to punch him every time he opens his mouth and says anything. Bring back Vin Diesel because at least you could tell even when he was acting that he was thinking "why the hell am I doing this I look like a dumb ass". The movies are basically just 2 hour product placement endeavours and music samples. Kids are very susceptible to copying anythign they see that is portrayed as cool. Make a movie about sticking toothpicks in your eyes and make it ultra-cool and kids will do it.|
|funny how long this crap can go on. i live in aust and respect both the old muscle and the new technology in jap 4's. But this is about the movie and all that 2 fast 2 furious has brought is a whole lot of pathetic cars with no performance and a whole lot of graphics and racing mufflers to the streets.|
|Here's something fun to do. Take the FanF DVD or 2F2F DVD (rent them or borrow them cuz you're a loser if you buy them) and turn on the French language dub. It's hilarious and actually makes Paul Walker look like a good actor. Thank you very much AcuraRSX. I'm glad somebody understands what I was trying to say. I've also been looking at the new Mustang GT a lot lately. It's really a lot of car for the money and is on the top of my list of potential new cars.|
|Diabetic Duck- I was talking about saying stupid and childish things...this was not aimed at you. Second, I never said anything about building a nitrous motor then never checking it. I don't know where anyone got that idea. You're all right, that is stupid. That's why i didn't say anything like that. I was stating its reliability and ability to withstand abuse, not anything else. Also, I'm 21. I'm grown as well. I think F&F and 2F2F did a lot for the industry as to its growth and wealth. However, a lot of people have no style when it comes to imports. And yeah, there are a lot of stupid ricer kids around my town that think an intake and an Autozone Special (fart can) will give like 40 horsepower. Intake might give you 1 or 2, if you're lucky. Fart can will give you 0-3, again...if you're lucky. The F&F movies removed the seriousness from the import scene and implemented a crapload of gayness. I still liked the movies though....they're movies. They're meant to be enjoyed and not taken seriously. Even though everything in those movies is so unrealistic, it's still just a movie.|
|I admit I may be wrong about the color, I may have read something wrong somewhere. But for everything else, I still stand on it. I notice you dropped the Civic R thing so you gotta admit you don't know everything. As for nitrous, I've read a good deal about it and been around cars that have it. You're right about building the engine to accomadate it and thats just common sense. No engine is gonna be maintanence free though. You can't tell me you never check an engine that you're racing. Thats just stupid. You gotta take care of something like that if you have that much money in it. But how many people just go down to their race shop and say "I WANT NAWS!!!!" and don't bother to do anything else? Quite a few. Nitrous really isn't practical outside of a drag race anyway, so I've never really did much more than laugh at it. If a Civic boy wants to claim his 300hp four with nitrous beats V8 cars (that don't have nitrous) then its like cheating. People need to look at the other side and realize that a V8 with nitrous is gonna eat them alive. Or how about a twin-turbocharged V12 from Mercedes??? lol with nitrous!!!!!
I'm childish? I say stupid things? I have nothing to back up what I say? Where did that come from? You said you completely agreed with me earlier. I guess you're not talking about me. You had nothing to back up your claim for left side drive Civic Type Rs except your lack of knowledge about what countries drive on the left and what drive on the right.
And how do I have a temper? I'm actually quite calm when I read what people say and then quite calm when I type my reply. I'm guessing that maybe you're a bit agitated so you're guessing that I must be too.
I've got better things to do than waste energy being mad over what some anonymous person does on the internet. I'm a grown man, not some 14 year old sitting here crying because somebody is talking smack to me. You can call me whatever you like, I still know that most of what I say is the god awful truth and that you don't know who I am and I really don't care who you are. I'm enjoying debating with people that actually debate and that includes you and I have yet to call you childish or anything like that. I go back to my earlier statement that I like mostly all cars but that my biggest problem is how people develop misconceptions about how things work or lose touch with reality altogether. And yeah those movies have messed up peoples heads because now they think stickers and wings and nitrous are the only things you need for a performance car.
(Editor's note: OK guys, this is not a forum for involved discussion...Please keep it on track with the original comment.)
|Man Diabetic Duck...you really have a temper, don't you? I forgot to correct you on your color issue. Integra R's sold in the US came in white, red, black, and yellow.\
And the nitrous thing...you might need to research a bit on N2O and how to build a motor correctly for it. It can be very dependable if built right. I know for a fact that a reliably built B18 honda motor can take a 100 shot for 10 seconds for 7 days straight. But as i said....reliably built. Forged bottom end (don't go too high on compression), good nitrous grind cams, stainless valves, strong head gasket, ARP fastenings. There you have it. Dependable nitrous motor.
It'd be nice if people posting on here weren't childish, said stupid things, and had some know-how to really back up their claims. Damn, F & F f*cked some people up in their heads.
(Editor's note: OK guys, cool down. We're getting a little to personal...)
|Brett the Honduh Nutt, I never said Integra Rs were not sold in the US. I pointed out that they came in only one color in the states. I also said quote "Last time I checked, the Type-R Civic was only available in Europe and Asia". There is no Civic-R that is for sale in North America. There is a hatchbak si with a few 160 horses or so, but no Type R. Apparantly you think all of Europe is right-side drive. Thats just primarily Britain my good Honda Guru. The rest of Europe drives on the left just like us red-blood capitalist pigs. Thats where you get your left-side drive Type-Rs. I can't believe you immediatly assumed it was North America because of the left-side drive!!!!!!! Taiwan is ALSO left-side drive and Honda exports heavily there. You can come in with all this "importing cars" bs if you want but that doesn't apply to my argument in which I'm talking about left-hand drive cars that idiots are putting stickers on. Give your car a 100 shot for 10 seconds once a day for a week and tell me what happens. Go for a month if you have to. And get back to me on that without lying. I'm what you might call a realist, so I thought I'd correct you. I'm not here to argue over whats best and whats worst. I just want people to stop blatantly lying about stuff. Hondas are great cars, no doubt about it. But they aren't Formula 1 bred racing machines either.|
|M4CK (do you think you're clever for using a 4 instead of an A?), if you would read my posts you would see that I do know what I"m talking about and I"m trying to educate people a little. But of course you only read half the posts as you said and immediately, being the ultra clever guy you are, labeled everyone posting here as a retard. "haha", we all think you're pathetic and retarded too so welcome to the club. The same anonymity you use to say stuff that you would never say to people's face is the same anonymity that makes us not care what you call us. Intelligence, get some.|
|Dawg Da Eclispa Wit Da NAz Can Run 9 SeConDs In the QuaRter ANd FlamEs aDD 5o HorSePowA|
|ALL of you are fucking retards. This is stupid, do any of you know what you're talking about? Jesus, I think I'm going to have to kill myself after reading just half of this shit.|
|one of the most pathetic retarded group of people ive seen in a long while. thanks for the laugh guys!|
|wow, this thing went to shit.|
|Diabetic Duck- I used to have nitrous on one of my vehicles. If you upgrade the right components and have the motor set up correctly (depending on how much hp you spray), it'll be just as dependable as stock. Another thing: Civic Type R's AND Integra Type R's were sold in the U.S. AND Europe/Asia. This is why left hand drive and right hand drive Type R's both exist. I've seen LHD Type R's for sale (they're legit) and I'm in the Japanese market looking to import my next "toy". This is where I've seen RHD Type R's as well. I'm what you might call a Honda Guru, so I thought I'd correct you.|
|now i am a chevy man. born and raised. first car i every remember is a 87 monte carlo. but dont lose your minds just yet. im not going to call anyone any name for verbally bashing american cars. before i am a chevy man. i am a CAR guy. i can respect any owner built street beater. i like old american v8s because you can make big numbers on pump gas. i like late model cars because of the wide range available to them as far as tuning and styling goes. i've seen imports beat domestic and the other way around. all of you reading this has got to realize that cars dont race themselves. the people driving are responsible for the numbers put down. and there is no need for everyone to get all upset about this movie because it is just that A MOVIE. it was made to entertain. granted i feel like it could have come out a little better im sure someone one enjoyed it.|
|On a further note, I just want to point out a few more things. Honda makes great V6 engines too that make great horsepower figures for their size. If the 4-bangers were so perfect why would they need V6 power for their upscale products? I see a lot of people arguing the "technological superiority" of modern four-cylinders and V6s over V8s. On what basis? Overhead cams? Valve timing? Overhead cams is nothing new. My old 1985 Volvo had an overhead cam. All valve timing allows for is a flat horsepower curve so that the engine won't seem sluggish at low RPMs. It makes for good horespower increase but torque almost always stays low. The bigger the displacement of an engine and the more pistons it has, the more horespower and torque it has available starting at lower RPMs. You have to rev the crap outta a Honda S2000 all the way up to around 9000RPMs just to get its full power. You get that same power around 4000 or so on a nice Hemi. Quicker power curve = quicker acceleration and easier to drive around town. Modern V8s, V10s, V12s, whatever are not "relics". They have overhead cams and valve timing usually as well. Nissan makes a mean DOHC V8. The Mustang V8 all the ricers seem to wanna hate and/or make fun of has overhead cam and is actually a well-built and well-tested piece of work. You should be attacking Ford's decision to put a live-rear axle in the 2005 Mustang if anything. Oh wait, most ricers wouldn't know what that means. Until the recent Corvette, GM had overhead cam V8s as well in the Vette. The pushrod V8 in the current model puts out 500ponies and still gets gas mileage in the high 20s. Some V8s as well such as the Chrysler Hemi are still built in pushrod configuration, but pushrods do not equate with inadequate. In certain configurations they are the optimum setup for an engine. Read up on motor design before you bash it. But yes, high cylinder-count engines like to guzzle fuel and love to pollute. Technology has improved and now we can see bigger better engines in cars that won't require the gas-guzzler tax such as this example: The Volvo XC90 SUV uses a V8 outsourced from Yamaha of Japan. This beauty meets ultra-low emission standards while still churning out over 300horses. Lexus uses V8s in its cars. The rotary RENESIS motor (it has no cylinders by the way, although many a stupid owner claims it's a four banger) used in the Mazda RX-8 and previous RX models are legendary for their power to size ratio, but did you know they GUZZLE gas and BURN oil faster than most V8s??? Whenever you supercharge an engine you lower the gas mileage as well as the peak life of that engine. That engine is also subject to a sharper power curve than in a naturally aspired engine of the same horsepower and torque. So you have a 600-horsepower civic or eclipse. (FYI- the factory non-turbo Talons and Eclipses from model years 95-99 had Chrysler engines and all models were built, and still are, in the United States. Take those Made in Japan stickers off your car) Good for you, hope you like the 15 mile per gallon mileage or the fact that front wheel drive really doesn't translate much more power to the ground than roughly 300 horse power. You EVO and STI fans know that AWD solves that problem. On the domestic versus import argument: A lot of domestics are made in Mexico these days and most imports not in their native countries either. American companies are making their money off trucks and SUVs so they haven't put near the R&D into smaller vehicles as the Europeans, Japanese, and Koreans. You need to keep in mind, however, that these companies have intricate parts bin networks and no car is exclusively built from only one company. GM has ties to Subaru. Chrysler has with Mitsubishi for years. Ford has used Yamaha V8s before and now Volvo does. GM has sold Suzuki's under their nameplates for years. ETC ETC ETC The new age of automotive doesn't have the boundaries or rivalry that everyone seems to think still exists. Companies from all over the world are usually owned by one parent company anyway. Let's see, what else do I got.... If you use nitrous in your race setup, YOU WILL BE WORKING ON YOUR ENGINE AFTER EVERY RACE just to keep it in working order. In the real world, if you subject your engine to the punishment of increased explosive conditions, your gonna have to do routine maintanence. Unlike in the fast and furious universe where there are crazy races every five minutes and you only pop your hood to have people ooh and ahh over your color matching wire sets. You especially don't blow your piston rings and valve cover seal and DRIVE AWAY FROM IT. A busted engine seal pisses oil like a trucker taking a leak after holding it for 4 hours. Also, the floor of your car doesn't fall off at 140 mph. What the heck was that about anyway? Oil pans are also vulnerable as hell. I've busted mine twice on bad roads. Jumping bridges and lowering your car to 5 millimeters off the ground won't help either. How the heck do you go over speed bumps????? Or take steep inclines? I understand a lot of people want to express themselves through their car. That is great. THat is wonderful. Just don't claim your Kio Rio beats Mustangs at stop lights or your Ford Probe beats 12 second cars at the track. It's fine if you want to make your car look fast and all that cal, but don't go being stupid. There are better and easier ways to proving your manhood than driving fast. Very few girls that I've met really care about guys that are always bragging about their cars anyway. I have a beautiful wife that doesn't give one hoot about what the heck I drive or how fast it goes or how big the wheels are. You might get attention from certain women for your car, but they'll move on to the bigger better deal whenever the occasion arises. Do you really want that? Whats with the Type-R badges? Last time I checked, the Type-R Civic was only available in Europe and Asia. The Type-R Integras were all the pearl white color. Your red, black, or yellow Integra Type-R is only inspiring comments of bullshit by those in the know. Whats with the wings on front-wheel drive cars? If that wing is actually positioned to provide downforce, your only hurting your steering cuz its lifting the weight off the front end and putting it on your rear. Not gonna do you boys a lot of good when your front wheels are doing all the work. Oh wait, you never actually drive faster than 40mph anway in the city. A wing on a convertible is utterly useless as well. The bottom line: You can do whatever the hell you want to your cars because this is a free continent. Just please educate yourself on cars before you go out talking like your an expert on all things automotive. If you think the most important part of your car is how tall the wing is or how much fire you shoot out your tailpipe, your only gonna get laughed at by those outside of your fairyland fast and furious world. The big picture: First, people drive what they can afford, and they try to either justify it as what they can afford or that it is the best car in the world. Second, people drive what they want to, but only after they can afford whatever they want to drive. Third, kids drive what their parents give them. Fourth, some people don't care what they drive. It's interesting that they have such a huge market for the compact car scene complete with stupid movies, since the SUV market is by far much bigger here in North America. Will Hollywood make a movie about soccer moms in their 8000pound urban assault vehicles? heh And about my wife's Mini: It's the 115 horsepower model, so its still not fast. Thing handles like a go-kart though.|
|steam from you car. flames out your exhaust!
its called purge from nos and spark plugs in you tailpipes.
faken wannabees, I have a old chevy mussle car, won't tell you which one, but it was the fastest production car made in 1970 ran a 13 sec in the 1/4 mile. Now it runs a 10.31 Naturaly asperated by the way.
the movie was stupid. Flames don't naturaly come out of your exhaust, the cat-converter takes care of that.
unless your running a big time boosted intake engine and down shift, then yes, it's possible to make them shoot out the pipes without a spark plug.
I have a civic too. its fun to drive, it gets good mileage. I have a short throw shifter in it. and a k/n intake. why you ask, because i'm lazy and want to get better mileage. THATS WHAT THEY ARE FOR... not for preformance.
Ok....You can take anything and put a turbo on it or blower and make it fast, but I bet that if I put as mush boost thru My CHEVY V-8 it would smoke anything that was displayed on that movie.....
nothing beats classic mussle,,, nothing,,,
(Editor's note: Unless you want to turn or stop...)
|OK first a car is a car, what you buy and what you do to it is purely for your own enjoyment, mabey for the chicks too :D, you cutomize a car that apeals to you and mabey the chicks again haha :) . All you people stop bitching which car is better than the other and enjoy the car that you like. Personaly I own a Evo 4 and its to my liking, I seem to hate what the stock evos look like except for the 6 mabey. Thats prob why my car looks nothing like a stock evo with a custom kit nice colour, rims etc etc etc. Oh yeah and the movie, Started out alright got a bit boring and ended in shit. WHO THE FUCK WOULD GIVE UP THAT 3 BAGS OF CASH hahaha NOT ME|
|Fuck that movie it was the gateway for import posers to act like they have always been down with the import scene.|
|okay... honestly, newer cars ARE insane when it comes to performance. you would never think a 4 banger could hit 200mph (if ur friends with bill gates). despite this, im still a muscle car lover. The point is... you guys can bitch and whine bout whats better... who cares? its all based on OPPINION. theres always gunna be something faster... so shut up.|
|Diabetic Duck knows what's up....couldn't have said it better myself. Dude- Mini Coopers are really not too slow out of the box, and they have a lot of potential. Plus, because of their light weight, 50 horsepower will take you a lot further than 50 in a camaro or something heavy like that. Mini's are the bomb.|
|I don't like the Fast and Furious movies because I love cars and I can't stand to see blatant automotive facts ignored in a movie. I can't even stand how in a lot of movies there is a "tire screaching" sound effect every time someone pulls away in a car, usually even slowly. lol If they were making fun of the ricey little cars it would have been one thing, but Tyrese and Paul "the new Keanu" Walker's consistent overzealous seriousnes just made it ridiculous, if not a comedy of its own. But hey, the general public doesn't know what goes on under the hood of their car so they love this stuff. It's a good "leave your mind at the door and just watch" movie I guess. Kudos to anyone that enjoys it and more power to the people that are cashing in on the franchise. My primary concern is the new wave of uneducated teenagers putting aluminum wings on their economy cars and driving around town like it's Le Mans. Please stop. You guys are ruining the resale values of a whole generation of Civics and other cars that would otherwise hold their resale value. Street racing is not cool. Wait till you run over a pedestrian or one of your friends wraps himself around a lightpost in a race. Real racers that actually put money into their cars (and not for anything fiberglass or carbon fiber) and pay their own gas take it to the track. I respect anyone that puts any amount of their money into whatever car they may have and takes it to the race track to compete. Arguments over displacement and cylinders never really go anywhere. Buy my two cents is that Japanese automakers (and a lot of European automakers) avoid V8s because their emission laws and fuel standards would make California look like it was still in the 10mpg 1960's. These companies do put V8s in their AMERICAN BUILT truck lines however. So it's not like they don't make them. FYI: The US and Canada is littered with Japanese automotive factories. Your Toyota Camry or Honda Civic was very likely built in North America. I respect any car that has a soul and a spirited drivetrain. I can love a classic pushrod V8 like in the new Chevy Corvette, a turbocharged inline 5 like in the Volvo S60, the awesomeness of Suburu's lineup and the Mitshubishi Lancer's with turbo fours and all-wheel drive, the gut-wrenching V10 in a Dodge Viper or BMW M5, or the simple compusure and frugal gas-sipping goodness of an economy car like a Honda Civic or a Mazda 3. I disrespect anyone that mutilates their car with tasteless and ricy "tuner mods." Sleeper cars and their drivers always get the most respect at the tracks, period. Showoffs are usually just full of hot air and/or compensating for a still non-resolved Oedipul Complex. http://www.thefacebite.com/ = the site has a funny flash movie about fast and furious, or you can find it on newgrounds.com Well I'm done now, sorry for making such a novel of a post, but I really wanted to make my opinion heard somewhere. Before anyone attacks me, I drive a 97 Eagle Talon manual non-turbo and my wife drives a 2005 Mini Cooper. Both are slow and hardly furious. But they are fun to drive and get great gas mileage.|
|the movie was ok...to the best ive ever seen. sum of the shyt in it was pretty inaccurate(I.E. the skyline off the bridge) the scene b4 it lands clearly shows that it wit smash it front end into the road and be all fuked up but it lands almost perfectly flat wit only sum sparks(that was like a 60-80ft high bridge jump and they went bout 200 ft as show in movie( i wood figure the rims wood be fuked and they wood be swerving all over the place not 2 mention cracked or even broken windows and a big fuking crack in the frame.) if they ever did make another movie bout it i wood probably see it but i hope if they do they go 2 loads of street races in that area so they can make a half way acurate movie.|
|2f2f sucked, i agree but only because of the massive cheesyness of the whole movie. A stock v8 mustang would not be able to beat a stock "ricer". the only advantage v8's have is when you take then to the strips and drop 1000's of dollars into them, they have a higher potential.justmy 1 cent PS. has any one actually tried the sparkplug in the exaust thing? cause i have a piece of shit 1986 olds that would be cool to do that to and i was wondering how to go about it.|
|Well I thought 2f2f had a weak plot, crappy computer generated action scenes, out of place actors (ludacris and tyrese), and gay advertisements (apc stickers were on every single car). There is a lot of people down here (Houston, Tx) that love to put robot bodykits, extravagant stickers, gigantic aluminum spoilers, altezza tail lights and those damn blue tint fake bulbs. These are just tacky and whats worse is seeeing domestic cars having these. But for the very few people, all over the world, that keeps their car (domestic or import) clean and just work on insane performance mods, i salute you.|
|Oh, my lord. You all need some serious edu-macation. The "steam" coming out of the car is a purge system for nitrous. It's a solenoid just like the nitrous solenoid, teed into the main line. when you hit the button, the solenoid opens and N20 comes out. THAT is the "steam". Furthermore, the flamethrower issue. There's a couple of ways to do this, and there are kits you can buy. You have to have a spark in the tailpipe, and something to spray fuel past the spark (like an extra injector). Thirdly...the whole "ricers are slow, v8s own" and "ricers are fast as shit, v8's suck" thing has got to go. There are many imports that will own v8 cars, and there are many v8 cars that will own imports. It depends on many things: power/weight ratio, if there are aftermarket parts in the motor, modified transmission, aftermarket rear-end (for RWD), sticky tires, THE DRIVER. There is no general consensus on what sucks and what doesn't, or what is slow and what's fast. I've had my share of both...2 imports, and 2 muscle. There are pro's and cons to everything. My advice to those who are biased and won't let shit go: get out there and get some experience. talk to people, find out what's under the hood, read some stuff on the internet, get a magazine, etc. You will sound less like a dumbass if you really know your stuff. And if you really know your stuff, you'll be able to have an intelligent, adult conversation with someone about their vehicle without saying something stupid. 'Nuff said.|
|everone who wrote any of this shit deserves to die a painful death, its the biggest load of shit iv eva heard, except u editor ur a sick cunt|
|everybody shut the fuck up eccept the editor
(Editor's note: Excellant advice.)
|Exhaust Flame Thrower There are two popular methods for producing exhaust flames - we will explain them both here. The means of producing flames for an exhaust flame thrower is the same for both methods. That is, a constant, pulsing spark ignites unburnt fuel at the end of the vehicle exhaust system. How you go about producing that spark and making sure you can produce flames is where the differences are found. Exhaust Flame Thrower methods Active Ignition The Active Ignition method of producing an exhaust flamethrower involves installing and wiring the kit properly and the igniting the unburnt fuel. This kit works best on vehicles without a catalytic converter or with an older converter. Vehicles with large motors, power modifications etc. will produce good flames... often even with a catalytic converter. Using higher octane fuel can also make an impact on the size of the flame - as will altering the fuel mixture so that you are running rich. This kit will cause less wear and tear on the motor/exhaust system than the other method (method #2). The kit we sell from UltraGear is an Active Ignition kit. PRO's: • Easier to install •does not cause damage to motor/exhaust system • does not affect how often you must change oil • very reliable when set up properly CON's: • Catalytic converters MAY cause it to be less effective Ignition Bypass Ignition Bypass is a method of making flames by shutting down the vehicle ignition system which allows raw fuel to flow through the cylinders and exhaust system until it is ignited at the end of the tail pipe by the flamethrower kit. This method is used by many companies as it can produce nice flames with less tinkering...but, there can be problems. Because raw fuel is running down the sides of the cylinders, it can mix with your oil. You need to change oil much more often if you are using this system. Also, the fuel can damage rings etc. and ruin your catalytic converter over time. If you have a vehicle that you don't mind changing the oil often or maybe even doing repairs often - this kit is a good choice. Many people buy this type of kit for show type vehicles that they don't drive much. On many vehicles (including almost every newer vehicle) the fuel pump will automatically shut off when the ignition is killed. In these situations, you will either have to switch to the Active Ignition method of producing flames or remove this safety feature from your vehicle (it may be difficult or impossible to remove). NOTE: WITH THESE KITS YOU WILL BE SHUTTING THE MOTOR OFF AND ON FOR EACH FLAME PRO's: • Produces large flames when installed properly • produces reliable flames when installed properly CON's: • Causes much more damage to the vehicle than the Active Ignition system • more complecated to install • may not work on newer vehicles • must shut engine off and on to operate|
|Yea of corse you can fuckin get steam out of ur car and N2O does that, and a blue flame can come out of ur exshaust pipe from puping up the Nitrous while you are stopped.
(Editor's note: Flames out the exhaust have NOTHING to do with nitrous purging. And when you purge your nitrous, it is not "steam" that you are seeing. Steam is vaporized water, not evaporating nitrous oxide.)
|The whole movie was about brian and Roman pearse being cops that was full time during and a quarter of time they had cars, But the best part was the start.|
|Ok listen the STEAM is the Nitrous purging in the lines because of excess stuff in the N2O lines. There are also kits online for Flame Thrower exhausts and you can also make your own or if you have a truley race inspired car if a little fuel is backed up in the exhaust and then you hammer down on the throttle it will spit flames out the exhaust pipes.|
|A way to maky flams to come out of your car is to mount a spark plug at the end of your exaust and in frount of it pu a lin running int to a pump and mkake the pump run into a bottel of lighter flude . the wire it so u ave a putton the will set off a spark and send the flued threw it at the same time this will give u fire but it woult be as beutiful as the ones on the movie . i styill think it was a good movie even thouht it was praticule.
(Editor's note: Spark plugs don't run on 12V....next....)
|First off the movie was entertaining, regardless of whether or not things were fake or what cars are better. I have a turbo mr2 and love my car, i prefer imports but i also respect domestics for their raw power. i have tons of friends with nasty mustangs and theyre very sexy as well. id rather take corners and listen to my turbo spool while getting good gas mileage. on another note reading peoples comments has been very entertaining.|
|The movie was one of the worst things that I have seen. On another note... 1) NOS stands for Nitrous Oxide Systems, the company, not the Gas. the Correct acronym is N20 denoting 2 parts Nitrogen, one part Oxygen. Which is illegal on the West Coast...(just research it all peeps.) 2) There are fast domestics AND imports out there, so it all comes down to personal preference and how much money you have. (The driver is the most important part in a race.) 3) This started as a discussion on how the movie was not on the whole import or domestic debate. You like your car? Who gives a crap bout someone else's opinion. You can't love anything if you don't love yourself!!!|
|Plain and simple Stock: Turbo 4banger EVO = high 13s low 14s Stock: Any Old V8 = mid 14s to high 14s I chose these cars because of the movie. Stock for Stock Old Caveman Technology could not MASS Produce a FAST sports car. V8s come from the factory like big slow bullys. Please stop comparing your Old charger/Stang. With our "Civics." Civics are for Moms and Highschool kids who like stickers. Beating them Does not make your Mullet look Any Cooler. Try beating a stock Supra "6banger",,, Not gonna happen. Its funny nobody ever brings up Rx7s/Skylines/300zs/Supras But they are quick to say "CIVIC" You can BOOST any car to be fast. Just like anybody can take steroids... A Real man is BORN FAST.|
|If you are spelling freaks/boffins on spelling don't read this artical this is purely for info only!!
for a start there is no such thing as nos comming outa the car body.
It would be a waist cus you go so fast you wouldent see it coming outa ya body (of the car).
2.jap cars are shit!!!
3.If you whant flames comming outa ur exhaust its true you can use a spark plug!! this works cus the flames come from un burnt fule which creats fire!
4.n yes nos is just as Illegal as Neon’s don't forget that!!
Oh yeah and 2 FAST 2 FURIOUS
(Editor's note: Another example of ignorance. "NOS coming from the body" is simply a purge. You purge a nitrous line to remove air, which assures a steady feed to the engine. Secondly, there are very few places where nitrous is actually illegal. I can't think of any off hand.)
Is double the clutch when you drop the clutch to go out of gear, then you rev the engine to match the lower gear then you drop the clutch and change gear.
I just wanted to know cus my m8's say this is a loda shit!!!
but i know its not!
(Editor's note: Double clutching is only done when downshifting. Clutch in, then shift to neutral. Let the clutch out, blip the throttle. Pull the clutch back in, then shift into your gear and let the clutch back out.)
|THIS MOVIE IS SO COOL
(Editor's note: Any wonder that this person came from the URL "http://www.google.com/search?q=CO2+CARS+HOW+TO+MAKE+TIRES+GO+FASTER"?)
|fast 2 furious rocks k|
|Man I can't believe ppl are fighting over fukn Domestic cars and Rice Rockets winning or loosing... and it was just a fukn movie, its there to be just watched. Not to be fought over...|
|90% of u in here are dumb fuks wit no brain and dont no shit all bout fukin cars. Muscle cars are fukin shit they will never win jap cars in quater mile. The Steam coming out of the engine is NOS purge. It comes out of nos purge pipes when your car is in nutral or when your engline is not accelerating and it does not come out of the fukin blow of valves. the flames out of the exaust is no bull shit. u can buy it a www.carmate.com and dont tell me im wrong coz iv instaled dis shit and experianced it my self. so all u fuks out there dat think v8 engines are better u can get your v8 and stick it up your ass. maybe we should ask da chicks what they like better v8's or jap imports. i mean how da fuk can u compare a skyline supra rx7 evo to and ugly as piss rust bucer v8 muscle car. man my arse lookes better than those cars.
(Editor's note: This comment = teh stupid)
|The same idiotic dialogue and tortured character development asthe first movie... however, there was LESS idiotic character development, and more action... even though it was NOT car action... there were still mistakes, and UGLY paint schemes, and a new Eclipse that supposedly can keep up with a "wild" EVO, and other humerous parts that were quite (unintentionally comical) interesting to watch. I enjoyed seeing some V8s in the movie, I thought the plot was potentially better and the execution was somewhat better. However John Singleton and I dont see eye to eye on good directing. For a good car movie might I direct you to the Italian Job (either one) Gone in 60 seconds (either but the first has better scenes) or just for a great car chase bullit or Ronin The best paart about 2f2f was the DVD having the "intro with that formerly glorious blackbird skyline r24 vspec II. of course until that yahoo lieberman got ahold of it and FUBAR'd it. BUt the first intro with the Road trip was the best part of the film. This forum provided great humour to me insofar as a lot of the Experts apparently did not know what they were talking about. I could take that car out (and you can hear them think," I think?") or steam or neon makes the flames colored. Sadly these experts have probably shared their knowledge to unsuspecting saps and seriously harmed or inconvenienced more than a few. Get the DVD, use the skip button to only watch the parts that to you are good... then everyone will be happy!|
|I highly believe the movie sucked, yes but who the hell thinks jap cars are better. all they do is look pretty nothing else!!!!! JAP CARS SHOULD BE HOOD ORNEMENTS FOR MUSCLE CARS!!!!!!!!
P.S. the Dodge Charger from F&F is the best car ever ( 900 fuckin horses)
(Editor's note: What are you, an idiot? I'm not sure who is worse; the ignorant ricers or the ignorant domestic owners.)
|I really did not like the fast and the furious2 movie.the whole cop and racers tagging up thing killed it.I think that if van diesal would of back in the second sequal that it would of probaly of been a whole different movie but when he probaly read the script he saw how crappy the whole thing would come out and he turned it down.the cars in the movie were good but could of been better,the flames coming out the exhaust was cool in the beginning but every time they shifted that was to muchand the nissans entrance was hot that was probaly the best car secne in the movieand does it matter how they made the flames come out who cares they put it in the movie its over let it go! and i totaly like both worlds of cars muscle and import i dont like one better than other cause they both have there unique performances and style|
|You can buy a fake purge kit from Dyno Tune as well as NOS systems on the internet|
|I'm a car lover but not someone who has my head so buried in cars that I'd fight over it. I also love street racing. As far as the movie sucking, I liked it enough to buy it. Granted they are gonna use special effects that don't much up with reality and that ruins for gearheads, bummer for them. Enjoyable enough for me. "Steam": It's an NO2 purge "Flames": there are a lot of ways to do it. F-throw attachment, propane (old hotrods used it) sparkplug in the exhaust thats triggered when the fuel isn't burned away completely. Etc You can create fire by rubbing two sticks together, you really think they can't come up with 10 different ways to shoot it out of the exhaust pipe of a combustion engine?|
|The flames were real in the movie I saw them myself when i went to the move theater.|
|all i want to know is:
would you be able to put NO2 in the 1970 Dodge Charger used in fast and the furious
(Editor's note: Of course. But if you have to ask...)
|what is under the hood of the fast and the furious 1970 dodge charger|
|man this movie was awesome. how could you think it sucked. lets see the cars were great the people were great i don't get how you thought it was gay
(Editor's note: I didn't think it was gay, I thought it was stupid. I'm not even sure a movie can be gay, unless it is "The Birdcage" or similar...)
|steam comes from a NOS purge system to get the excess pressure out. The flame is actually real there is a kit to add a flame. I have been reaserching and all of this is true|
|like it says it wasnt as good as the first, like the jumping over the bridge damn they must be rich to just fuck up body kits like that|
|You guys who are arguing about flames coming out of exhausts, "steam" coming out of hoods and "Ricers vs. V8s" sound like a bunch of little kiddies... how old are you guys exactly?|
|Your all a bunch of idiots - Really, you are!|
|Your all a bunch of idiots - Really, you are! and that has nothing to do with your opinions of the movie. Stop wasting time, bickering and get to the track.|
|this has got to be the stupidest shit ive ever seen, i came across this by acccident and started reading, poeple talking about "steam" coming out of their hoods. haha can you say purge kit, and it does serve a purpose, it emptys the nitrous in the lines out, if your buying a nitrous kit for the steam look, just buy a tank and a purge kit, it seems like a waste of money but if thats your thing... also i have a turbo eclipse with some extensive mods and i eat V8s all day long so stop talking shit about imports, better gas mileage, cheaper insurance, better handling, and i'll stomp any v8 in a rally cross, about 2F2F, it was a bangin movie, although not so realistic it was a fun movie with some sick cars (Skylines and supras, even the muscle cars were arite) so stop takin the fucking movie so seriously and just be happy ja rule wasnt in it.|
|lmmfao, 8's or 4's... dun matter too me, my dream is a new bmw m5... v10... but any way... here goes.
had a race against a friend last saterday, bout 3am. he has a valiant charger, got all hes special mods for drag racing, dun ask me what, i dunno it all, all i know is hes car is an old straight 6 done up for dragging, use to beat v8's in its day, hes car is listed in alot of new zealand mags cuase of its power, any way, all i got is a 1600cc toyota sprinter gt, got pot filter, big bore, mags, and my fave, AIR HORNS, go the bloody horns }:))
guess what, from napier to waipawa bout 80km i beat him so far, that i had the coffee ready by the time he got home, now yeah, 1/4mile, that dude will kick my lil sorry ass who loves hes car horns.
but for fuck sakes, dont tell me handling dont matter, my friend almost landed in the swamp at an S bend cause he coulf not turn sharp enough.
And for those fags who dont like civic, lick my ass, its a world wide known fack... HONDA makes the most powerfull engines for their size.(HP-Cubes)
so no need for them to make v8's or 10's or 12's, they can pretty much equil a v8 with their lil 4s... no, i myself dun like rice eyes at all, but for fucks sakes, dun try to tell me their cars are useless...
*closes eyes and dreams of driving M5 with AIR HORNS!!!, go the fuking horns*
(Editor's note: Actually Mazda makes the most powerful engines for their size...take a look at any of their rotary engines...)
|you peaple suck that movie was the bomb|
|wat is sucked sopose to mean if it mean its crap then u r verry rong it is the best that nissan skyline was da bomb
(Editor's note: Has spelling died?)
|i think it lacked i thing called realisum
(Editor's note: Um, you mean realism?)
|Whoa now, some of you need to read a book or something. My suggestion would be a dictionary. I personally liked the movie because it fulfilled its purpose of entertaining the general public. I understand it can be frustrating to see gross misrepresentations of facts that you know to be true, but they were out there to make money. I didn't know much else about cars and racing other than the movie, until I began to do some research and reading articles written by those that know the real deal. This isn't the place for arguments about whether an old-school muscle car is better or not than the new rally bred japanese cars. You put enough money and time into either and you will get something that will be able to perform better than most. It's almost like the question of whether it is better to buy a 100k supercar or put 70k into a 30k car. This comment is from someone who still knows little about the car world, but is "hungry" for correct information. Respond to me if you have worthwhile information, otherwise, ignorant comments and insults should be kept to yourself. (And if you feel you must insult anyone, at least spell it right. No one should be getting four letter words wrong.)|
|i soo dont agree wit you at all!!! it was great espesh paul walker he is sooo hot|
|Guys, Guys, comment on the movie..... what ever's real or fake in the movie doesn't matter .... They just tried to use their brainS to amuse yo,; a little stretch of imaginations ..... CREATIVITY!!!
(Editor's note: Actually, it sort of does matter. When you consider that the vast majority of the population can't seperate what is shown in the movie from reality, things should be at least roughly accurate...)
|2 slow 2 tedious
(Editor's note: Wow...creative.)
|Ok lets set a few things straight. The greater the displacement of an engine, in general, the greater it will inflict upon straight line speed. ie. VTEC Civics are limited by there capacity to produce greater power. Forced induction by the way of turbocharging and supercharging is the only way to go, to achieve true power to run HP and real fast times. Big engines such as the dickhead above who gloates about his 454 are made for huge gains in HP, for only straight line speed. Four/six cylinder turbos are primarily built for there light weight, handling and ability to accelerate out of corners effectively. If you want a basis to shoot flames out of your exhaust, you would want to either be running a big capacity carborettor engine or a turbo-charged car without a cat convertor and advanced timing. Turbo cars CANNOT shoot flames out of there exhausts while accelerating (such is in 2F2F) without other aids. The only flames you might get are from the dump-pump on the downshift. In conclusion put a low hp car such as a AE86 Toyota Treuno Sprinter which has aproximately 160hp against this dickhead above in his 454 doorslammer with 4000hp on a track with hairpin turns at 50m intervals and the sprinter will own it. Also dont be stupid and ignorant (as above) and keep your mouth shut if you can't argue a point with a valid arguement|
|Hi...this is a good movie that i ever seen before this.But my opinion are their character must improve it better than before.Secondly,try to focus to that car like EVO, skyline angd another,..|
|Jap cars are tottaly crap. The only way the jap cars can beat v8's is by driving them of the road like in the movie. How home the skyline in the movie ran thirteens, it should have run 20's for all i care. If you want real power, buy a 454 and dont come crying to me when you cant handle the power. Stop mucking aroud with shitty little jap cars made out of things that are recycled, and get a v8 to show real power.
(Editor's note: And here, a prime example of ignorance.)
|Wow. There are a bunch of blatantly stupid people here...
(Editor's note: Ya' think?)
|All u guys talk about is da cars so which 1 of u guys can show us some pics. I have 3 cars hooked up and i "pimp cars" all day. Whateva u want i can put it on da car/truck. Post a link. P.S. go to modacar.com to get parts for your car to hook them up. That and ebay.|
|It rocked any one who thinks different is messed up I especially liked the Skyline nissan it was cool I am going to get one when i get older I am not going to street race I will have n2o but I wont use it I will have blue lights at the bottom and huge amplifiers with blue lights around them and it will be a forien car.|
|you guys sucks it rocks u r just juluos ill have a shop called THE GARAGE!!!|
|yall have to be the biggest bunh of fuck wits around it wa just a movie. Anywasy the skyline in the movie looked nice but only ran 13s which is shit. p.s suki is a hoe
(Editor's note: Wow. Just wow.)
|I wasn't impressed with 2f2f either, and I don't mean to butt in, I'm looking for a chat room with people that own or know about S2000's. Can somebody line me out? I love mine, Tom|
|CARS R 4 GIRLS ALL OF YOU NEED TO GET TRUCKS. O I FORGOT ASK YOUR DADDY 2 BUY YOU ONE. ALL YOU LITTLE BITCH ASS PUSSIES HAVE YOUR PARENTS BUY YOUR SHIT
(Editor's note: Now that's just stupid. I don't want a truck. I don't need a truck. I haul nothing to justify me buying a truck. I want a quick, nimble and small car, not a slow, lumbering and humongous truck...And for the record, my parents have bought me exactly nothing...Is it any wonder that this post came from an AOL search?)
|by a fn purge valve kit from a store along with a nos kit and u can have the "steam" shoot out of the sides of your fn car, or get the cheetah kit along with steam it shoots out co2 and slows cars beside you because the co2 displaces the o2 from the intake.
(Editor's note: CO2 slowing cars beside you? Yeah, right.)
|It is amazing the xenophobia present on this board. The movie is a dumb movie, meant to sell. Girls as sex objects, Fast Cars, Mainstream rap passed off as Hip hop, partial cliche dialogue, parties. But hey it was entertaining. better than the first one, since this had more enteratining action scenes. V8's are more powerful, that's fact. But who cares. I rather drive a Supra or an Evo than any of those cars. What car would you drive long distance? Besides the Jap cars look cooler. They are Cooler. Who cares if you get more horsepower from a V8, its not like you can really use it anyway, unless done illegally or on a race track which you wouldn't do everyday. Most people would prefer to drive a cool looking Jap car rather than a muscle car. mostly only extreme beefheaded car enthusiasts are into muscle cars. I got nothing against them, its all a matter of prefference. A skyline is cooler than a charger, they're better rides. I'm not into endangering other people's lives going at an insane amount of speed, but I do enjoy driving around, and I rather do that in a Skyline than a muscle car. Stop being so racist.|
|2F2F wasnt a bad movie, realistic or not. yes, some stunts were overexaggerated and gay, but thats why its called a MOVIE.|
|still no reply from u arran cake i thought we were havin a race well alots been happenin with me did the cannonball here in britain (britains shorter version to the gumball 3000) raced from london to monte carlo 36 hours of driving continuously im likin these views on 2 fast 2 furious but the fast and the furious was alot better nice speak to you soon by arran|
|some people just dont realize that this is just a movie and near nothing in movies should be taken as fact. any how i am building a 64' baja sand bug and was wondering where i can find a used RB26DETT - Inline-6; Twin-Turbo Charged Motor ( skyline r33 motor) or a good site for the new vtech v6 motors(honda). i was lookin to twin turbo that vtech motor if i cant get a hold of the r33 motor. any other ideas would be nice lookin for 400+ horse with GREAT BOTTOM END(to blast up the dunes)... V8 is to heavy or i would use. thanks|
|Well I Think That The Movi aint bad, nice ass pimped ridez, the rest was fukkin gay tho, an flames are nothin special, anyone can put that in a car i donno wtf you idiot noobs are smokn|
|i have attended and raced many times at street races. to get steam the car is in neutral and quickly touch the N2O button while still in neutral. the nos has nowhere to go but out the sides and air intakes
(Editor's note: No comment)
|OMG the movie 2 fast 2 furious it was the shittest movie iv ever seen cause it waz all about carz carz|
|Well i think 2 fast 2 furiuos was better then the first one because it had better cars in it this time round i really liked the nissan skyline ,mitsubishi spyder and the mitsubishi evo i didn't like the two muscle cars because i don't like old cars that much the two best parts of the movie was the first race at the start when the big nissan skyline carves the three other cars up that were in the race and the other part of the movie i like was near the end when the cops were chasing the evo and the spyer on the freeway then they hid in the shed and waited for a few moments then the whole heap of other cars came out and split the cops up but overall i like the movie and i think they should make another movie like it but a different story line to it|
|I'm so glad for the internet. Reading this page has brought a smile to my face. Personally I think this movie did suck, perhaps some people found it entertaining, and good for them, but I found it offensive to anyone with a general knowledge of cars. The movie was more about show than go-go-go. Added to that that the main character seemed to think he was black (yeah bro!) and the black guy spent most of his time being pissed off and taxing everything he could...well lets just say I'm glad I didn't pay to watch it. Seems like most people here are getting their facts from movies and the like, most of what I know about cars I know because I've spent a fair bit of time repairing and servicing my own car (which is a little past its prime...) I love to see people getting so passionate about something that really is quite insignificant. I gotta say, I like muscle because they have the 'grunt' but I also like Jap because they have the 'zooooom'. Each to his/her own fellas. But yeah, great page, and kudos to the dude from the future with the Excel; be proud son!|
|who ever thinks that it sucked is rong it is a great show have you seen the grafics and who ever thinks half the things are pretened are wierd most of the stuff is true but how cares they can have there own apinions
(Editor's note: Need I say more?)
|ok w/e all u mofo got to say about this movie? ya fukin retarded lil asswipes. i only go wit ppl whu say this move is good or positive. tell me somthin u biches. stop talkin about exaust and all those motherfukin shiet. w/e. my fukin point is dat there is no movie out there dat is lyk "2 Fast 2 Furious" or "THe Fast And The Furious". tell me how often do street racing movies come out these fukin days. give ppl a break. shiet they be workin helluh hard 24/7 on these movies. at least respect them u fukin asscracks. dont care about nuttin but yappin yapin about some shiet we cant even figure out. for once give ppl dat work there a break. i dont noe about ya biches but ya dont noe sheit about these fukin cars. im wit japan and there cars. i nvr lyked americans cars AT ALL!! dats y there is no american car that can top Japs Finest cars.
Americans Best cars:
lets face it, ya gay white bois and whu ever lyk da american cars can jus suk shiet everyday riding those gay cars to work everyday. not even all american cars can get suited up wit Nitrious. not even turbo. now jap cars can relate to anything. yea dont noe shiet so fuk da hell up damn it. im sayin i noe a lot about cars. i jus noe some parts nd how they get installed and how much they run on dat ratio.
(Editor's note: I'm posting this just because it's so stupid. Notice the lack of proper spelling, punctuation or even intelligent thought. I seriously hope that this comment is actually a joke, becuase if there is someone this ignorant in the world, then things are worse off then I first imagined...)
|thisis for the last entry mike bc i aint wastin time on evryone else in this thing. there is no way they would have beaten ti challenger and if u listened to the movie they said that. thay admitted they would have to cheat and thats exactly what they did. the spec tho u have on the rice r wrong bc the cars were tuned and hooked up meanin they had more power and prolly lower track times. so basically u fibbed ur whole entry....have a nice day|
|there is no way in hell that if u raced a ricer and a V8 with the same money into both cars that the ricer would come out ahead the just dont have it in them
(Editor's note: OK guys and gals, this is getting stupid. This is NOT about import vs. domestic, 4 cylinder vs. 8 cylinder, etc. It's about a movie that really, really sucked. Each engine has it's own advantages and disadvantages, as does every car. One is not necessarily better then the other.)
|First of all those who think muscles are dinosaurs well lets stick a rice burner in the trees for 30 years and see how it comes out i think that it is a givin that it will desintigrate. Second I can guarentee that a true V8 with the same kind of money as some of those imports on 2f2f will leave the rice driver sitting at the starting line choking on tire smoke. Any body out there think like me post here of email me at firstname.lastname@example.org|
|That movie wasnt very realisic b/c that rice car would never beat a 1970 Dodge Hemi Challenger w/ a 426 Hemi 525 hp 550tq 0-60 3.8s top speed 184 quarter mile in 11.23. The ricer 164hp 104tq 0-60 in 5.8s top speed 132 quarter mile 16.23. Hum.... Which is better?|
|I saw the movie, i thought it rocked!!!! some of those cars remind me of my car. totally stock 1983 chevy chevette. 140 ci. of american muscle!! runs 9.55 @ 167 mph gets a little wheel spin off the line but then things really start to fly, chew on that uncle ben fans!|
|to any one who thinks the evo is fast your wrong I' ve got a old camaro and i bet i can smoke it's ass|
|fucken retards, the movie is homo if you know alot about cars, the reason for the over dramatic flames out the exaust and nos venting is purely for dramitic purposes.
Flames, "steam", stickers and under-car lighting look cool to the car n00bies.
so stop bitching about how fake it was and enjoy ffs...
want a movie about real cars try high octane or something.
and, doug u tard, dodge stealth is a awd not fwd
(Editor's note: Some people use the acronym FWD to mean Four Wheel Drive).
|you can shoot flames my car does all i did was put a spark plug in the tailpipe thats hooked to a switch run raw gas through the pipe flip the switch and then booom i have fire!!!|
|THE ONLY COMMENT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS ABOUT THE FLAMES. EVEN IF CONDITIONS WERE RIGHT THAT THE CAR DID SPIT FLAMES, WHICH CAN HAPPEN WITH NO CAT AND A OVERLAP IN THE VALVE TIMING, NONE OF THE CARS WOULD BE SPITTING COLORED FLAMES! TO ASSUME THAT THE FLAMES WERE COMING FROM THE EXCESS FUEL TRAVELING 10 FEET AND SPITTING 3 FOOT COLORED FLAMES IS RATHER MORONIC. THE FLAMES WERE FROM A FLAME THROWER KIT THAT RETAILS FOR ABOUT $650. IT AUCTUALLY IS A STAND ALONE SYSTEM WITH A SPECIALLY MIXED FUEL THAT CAUSES THE COLORED FLAME. IT USES THE EXHAUST PRESSURE TO HELP PROPELL THE GAS OUT THE REAR OF THE CAR AND CREAT THE EFFECT THAT THE ENGINE IS SPITING A 3 FOOT FLAME. IF YOU HAVE EVER WATCHED DRAG RACING, ALCOHOL BURNING FUNNY CARS HAVE 2 FOOT LONG EXHAUSTS THAT SHOOT 4 FOOT FLAMES, THAT WOULDN'T EVEN MAKE IT THROUGH A CENVENTIONAL EXHAUST SYSTEM.|
|The film is fictitous and you lot seem to be forgetting that. As for the cars, American muscle can only go straight, whereas Jap cars can go round corners. That is where the main difference lies. Get yourself something like a Plymouth Hemi and there wont be much to touch it on the straight but dont expect to stop quickly either, but it would be a truly awesome ride! On the other hand, get an R33 Skyline like mine and you can go round corners and stop as well. You even get the power to match the hemi.One sure fire way to beat virtually everything is to buy a new GT40, the most remarkable piece of equipment around. Dont forget that if it wasnt for us brits you wouldnt have it though, oh and one thing can stuff a GT40, Mclaren Fi, another brit.|
|Hmmmm i think we are all car people but only some of us are true car fan. If you are a true car fan you will like anything with power, speed, and agility. Yea i have seen civics eaten alive with no remorse by mustangs, and camaros, and so on. Not a big surprise americas cars specialize in torque. I have also seen the muscle seen eaten alive by subarus, nissan 300zx's and so on. This is the power to weight ratio. Imports tend to be lighter and take less to move. So come on guys lets try to get along here. Civics can be bad ass and we all know the power of the v8's. Just remember every car has its advantages and disadvantages V8's (weight) imports ( lack of torque). but in the right doeses any of these cars wether it be import or domestic can bring a lethal blow to its competition. Who cares about fire coming out of your car if you like underbody neons install em, if you like flame throwers altho risky to your car and self install em. Its your ride you do what you want. Lets all grow up it was a movie it was meant for fun enough said|
|Damn yall......the point of movies is to be enjoyable to watch....everything doesnt have to be "Realistic"....that's the point of most movies.....if u want realistic shit...then that's why they have reality T.V. so maybe Just maybe if u yall stop running ur mouth bout all the shit u see wrong in a movies u could enjoy them a lil better!! Cuz I for one loved the 1st one and I liked the 2nd too....so Everyone stop with the shit and just watch the movie!!!|
|ok well i personally enjoy the v8s, but i am also an import fan, i drive a nice first gen DSM, eagle talon, these came with the same motor as the lancer evo family, now these eclipses/lazers/talons can with engine work push over 800whp there is an AWD talon raced by a man named john sheppard in the states and his fastest time is 8.76 at 166mph, and thats in a 4cyl car with regular street radials and a car he drives to work, engine work was done by a company called burschur racing right on the front page alone are links to downloads of clips of his car doing this time http://shepracing.com/ now keep in mind the car itself is AWD and was not made for 800+hp so he does NOT drop the clutch off the line, so he looses his 60foot times and still pulls off mid 8s times as well here is the link to burshur racing http://www.buschurracing.com/ read through the site and they have all the info on there prject cars now keep in mind the motor and transmission combo actually costs close to $20,000 canadian and about $5000 canadian to get the car, so $25k and you have an 8s 4cyl turbo car, personally i would rather beat someone in a race in a 4cyl car and walk away proud of having such a highly modified car. i come from NB canada, one of the most respected import communities in canada, the majority of the honda civics around here are running h22a/GSR swaps in them with turbos and nos, but the majority of us dont street race period...maybe at most a quick light to light at 4am when there is no risk to another motorist, as for the majority of you, how mature are you people insulting one another on a nameless internet forum? as for the guy who one a evo 7 racing slips - no one in there right might will race for slips unless they have an endless supply of money, your stories have no common sense and lack logic...i am done my rant, but you street kiddies are giving import tuners around the world bad reputations for your illegal street racing, most of just get your licenses and dump all your money into cars and we here in canada end up reading about the 18 year old kid who gives her car a 75shot of nos to win a steet race and the torque steere causes him to loose control and cause a multiple car accident with injuries and death, i dont have the links anymore for these, but true tuners respect ANYONES car for there time and creativity with there cars, wether it is a a ford mustang, cavalier or hell even a civic, as for the flames from the exhaust, yes this is possible and i have seen it on several cars here in the maritimes, and its simply done by a sparkplug and a remote switch no NOS or propane, those are other ways to do it,the flames on the movie were redone by computers for the extra length of the flames and other special effects, do a search on google and there should be an article about the movie and what special effects were used, as for the "steam" it was nos being purged through tubing and valves, my car will soon be running nos at the racetrack but is illegal to have the bottle open on the street in canada or atleast this province, this can also be accomplished and has only been done a few times cause most people just like wasting nos, but for a cheaper approach for the EXACT same visual effect for eye catching cars can be done with a c02 tank and compresser from a airbag suspension kit, so not only can you purge it almost anytime you want, the compresser continously refills the bottle, so no paying for refills..preety good cost saving idea if you ask me since nos is nowhere near cheap, and for a small investment you refill your tank just by driving around, and the compressers are near silent...just a little bit of info for you guys, since i research everything i talk about before i even give an opinion on it..as well i would like to see the editors comments on this since he knows what he is talking about and isnt a hot tempered teenager like MOST not all of you seem to be...some of you have well thought out arguements which is a nice refreshment now a days, as for the big v8s, they are slowy loosing there popularity, thats why there are only the basics on the market now..viper/mustange/corvette and probably a few others that are being over looked, but the motors in these cars are now more for emissions and fuel economy then brute HP, majority of them with electronically controled valves computer technology used from YES japanese cars.....they are still well made cars with amazing power, but nothing like they used to be..ok i'm dont its close to 6am here and ive been up for 2 days|
|haha! i just wanted to say you guys are funny. can't believe this topic has been going on for 9 months already. well about the movie...i didn't think it was that bad. it didn't really have much to do about cars though.|
|Man, You guys are all whiney bitches, everyone has thier own different taste in cars, and theres no reason to be a fag and say crap like "oh rice cars are for japs who like plastic and foot sex" or "a v8 is a heavy peice of inoficcent shit", each car you can mod to make faster than the other, but in the end who the fuck wants to be wrapped around a tree at 25 ?
(Editor's note: This may amaze some of you, but there is a way to get your ideas accross without profanity or calling someone names...)
|hate to bring back the flamethrower muffler tip arguement but if u go and buy urself an issue of a mag like lets say import tuner and look at this add that has suicide doors and shaved door remote controls u will find this kit that u can buy for like 99 bucks that u can install an ur car thats pretty much a flamethrower but its only for offroad trucks and if u have one on ur little honda u can et busted but yes it is pssible and no is no computer and yes u can put it on your moms beetle bug|
|First off all, there is no replacement for displacement, whichever fag said that every turbo 4 could own over american muscle is retarded. Ever watched a modded Viper lose to a modded WRX, i sure as hella know I haven't. Second, you can make that tight turn like the one on the American vs. Rice car race if you know how to use your e-brake to induce oversteer. Last but not least what kinda rims are on that skyline.|
|Wow! About the only two ppl in here that seem to know anything about cars are Jay and 2 fag to faggish. The rest of u need to actually try working on a car and stop throwing out random terms that u heard in a movie!
(Editor's note: You're forgetting about the person who posted first.)
|You said no V8 muscle care ever came close to running 13's - How about a Boss Mustang 429? It ran 11's in bone stock form and that was in the the 70's.
I have never heard of any import running 11's bone stock, have you?
(Editor's note: MotorTrend quotes the '88 Porsche 959 as doing the 1/4 in 11.9. It will also turn and stop.)
|Hi, can I talk in portuguese well...|
|Hey this one is for Jay. You say you have been hauling a 6000 pound yacht with a GM truck with a V6. Are you retarded? Who the hell would be trying to pull a 6000 pound boat with a V6. I pull a 24ft Four Winns boat with a Chevy that has a 5.7 litre 350 and my gas mileage goes from 17 mpg to 8 mpg. Are you trying to blow the fucking thing up|
|actually u can get flames to come out of ur exaust, if ur dumping excess fuel and not burning it all completly u have unburned hydrocarbons spilling out, u can splice a spark plug line and put a spark plug at the end of ur exaust that in turn ignites any unburned fuel(ive seen this done before) and the steam was suposedly nos and pressurized air coming from duel BOV's (since the r34 is twin turbo)|
|Is this whole argument based on 1/4 mile times?! I know you guys are american, so you only have about 4-5 corners per 100miles in your country, but in the film, they are racing, (with corners), not drag racing. Now the 2000 pound american muscle, with their cast iron v-8 lumps, and r/wheel drive are NOT going to go round the corners as well as something that weighs less than half that, has all wheel drive, and with comparable power are they? NO!! I personally would still buy a V-8, as opposed to some robot built piece of japanese plastic, I mean these things have SOUL dont they! I live in england, not far from london, and I regularaly see skylines on the roads, they are only highly regarded by 16-year old pussies who watched the first film! and buy the 20-something executives with too much money, and who dont know shit about cars (who BUY+DRIVE them). Have any of you guys heard of a lotus? more specifically a lotus elise? probably costs about the same as a few sets of chrome rims the pussy cars have in the film. It is considered one of the best handling car ever made, it only has a 1.8 (multi point injected) engine, but racing in stock form against the pussy plastic shit in the film (especially that first race), my money is on the lotus. Its not all power, or size guys......its how you use it ;')|
|The movie did suck. Concering flames from the exahaust, you can acomplish it with a propane kit. They cost abit of money, and any racer would not put one on, as it is a complete waste of space and time. Another method would be drilling a small hole on the bottom of the tip, and putting a spark plug in it; from there, you would connect a wire down to the ground and battery. Exahust obviously contains some fuel, no matter how well you tune it, and whatever comes out from the tip can be ignited to produce the "flame from exahust" effect. Useless facts galore. And to Jim: Represent, brother; I also have a Toyota Supra(86, Turbo version.) Supras are among some of the best 6 cyclinder/import racing cars you can get(Don't start with MACHLEARAN F111 OMGGGGG cause you don't have a million dollars) and they could barely beat a V8.|
|Everyone needs to take a breather, it's not a big deal|
|more like 2 gay 2 curious, well to clarify some things, one way to blow a flame is to have an open exhaust, with efi take your revs the the redline when you have a rev limiter and when you hit, let off and let it flame, my mk3 supra will blow a flame about 7 inches, on decay side of revin not attack mind you. another thing the skyline is a awsome car and they pulled the rb26dett motor and put a 2jz-gte toyota mk4 supra motor in it, and pulled the vr track awd system, and traight rear wheel drive system, to obviously pull off the drift you see on the stupid ass movie. Oh by the way, HKS has a drag car that is the mk3 supra '86.5-92.5, on unmoddified block, with new internals lot of head work, and it lays down just under 8 seconds on a 3 litre inline six cylinder, with independent rear suspension, with LSD and if any of you know your stuff, independent rear when you launch the ass end squates and the out side of the tire comes up allowing less traction than most straight rear axels of most american cars. oh by the way for all you dodge fans out there its gonna hurt ya by me saying this but my mk3 supra also has a hemispherical head to, so should i put hemi on my licence plate, or leave the 50 KLR sorry for the bitchin|
|I thought the race scenes were better than the first, just because I prefer to watch road racing than drag. The story wasn't as strong, but the cars were better. Eva was hot, but Torreto's girl in the first one also looked really good. Paul Walker's girl in the first one was busted though.|
|ok let me start off by saying this the r34 is 2 kool 2 be in 2 fast 2 furious along w/ the silvia that u could see everyonce in awhile and yes back in the day there were cars that rolld off the show room runnin 10`s and 11`s those care supported hemis ok can u say hemi w/ me real slow H...E...M...I !!! has a nice ring huh ok now those cars were putting out ground pounding 450 hp or more off the show room floor!! ground poundin hp- rumbling/ shaking the car next to you shaking the ground, ok now what car is putting out those numbers stock in japan none!!!!! also flame throwers are only kool on lead sleds!!!!!!!!|
|First of all as a movie director myself I understand that 2 Fast 2 Furious is a pure gimmicky to feast the eyes of its viewers. Firstly I do agree cars does not shoot out flame in any condition. Unless it is running in a really rich condition where ussually u can find guys from NASA using this composite to launch rockets. The thing is as far as the flames are concerned it is purely made to add some dramatic effect to the movie thats all. How do they do this? They actually added an extra secondary fuel tank in the boot of the car. This is just a small NOS Canister which have been filled up with raw petrol ( to initiate the burning), alchohol ( to add colour to the flame ) and another medium called the 'fusion' ( small silica based material that has bright light when ignited). Then a fuel pump is hooked up to the secondary fuel tank and connected to a NOS defuser right before the cars mufflers. A spark plug and coil is added at the tail end of the muffler to start the combustion. All connection is well seal that there must not be any air in the system. As any air premature stage will cause un controlable fire. Basically there will be two switches one to control the fuel pump n the other one to control the spark plug. To initiated flame from the exhaust, the fuel pump is turn on for a brief period before kicking the sparks in. Both swithces were press continously to get a continous flame. Remember during the movie we can see flame only during high rev's this is because initiating this system at low rev is like clicking on a bomb because the flame needed to be pushed out of the exhaust. Anyone with proper knowledge can try this. But be aware safety always comes first!!!|
|to HondaS2000's rok if u like it so much then y does it say 2 Fast 2 Furious = Sucked hahahaha, but yea dude i know ya like it, i luvd it to it woz awsome|
|2 fast 2 furious was allright but the fast and the furious was the best and aaron cake what happened to the site with all the people talking about big american v8s and japanese imports that u told me i couldnt visit anymore because i was using it as a forum that site was well good but i cant find it aaron cake i can do anything i like and u cant stop me and the honda integra is kicking everyones arse how about we get together and have a race make a bet ill beat you £1000 but are you to scared write a reply and ill read it on thursday morning and tell the site address for the other decent site|
|It rox who eva sez it sux u suk if u like it u rok
(Editor's note: Um, huh?)
|im a little fag tho but i dont know wot i am talking about half the time but u get over it i actually love the movie but u no, i try and sound all cool by sayen its shit but i'd sleep with it if i could lol but yeh!!|
|your a bitch it was an awsome movie
(Editor's note: What an intelligent comment...Of course it comes from @AOL.COM)
|Okay.. There was no spark plug in the exhaust. For the spark plug theory to work, extra gas would have to come from the cylinders. If there was gas going through the exhaust from the engine, it would have to pass the catalytic converter. Gas in it's unburned state will destroy a catalytic converter in mere seconds. That's why the flame thrower that others have talked about are found on the older carburated cars... because they have no Cat. The other way that flames can be produced oh these cars in the movie is, a, propane tank, b, routing extra lines for a flammable material and a spark plug, or c, movie special effects. Also, in the discussion of lower to higher displacement engines, there are some 4cyl's that do have an advantage over a V8 or even the Dodge V10, that would be either because they have a turbo/supercharger, Nitrous, or because they are a lighter weight. Often my argument in this is. I drive a GM truck with a V6 in it, it's slow as hell compared to newer vehicles. I may lose to a 4cylinder car, but let's see who can tow more. Try to tow the same 6,000lbs yacht with your Civic. Other than that, the movie was okay. It suffered from a lot of cheesyness. Take the Skyline, for example. Did you know that they removed the front driveshaft so the car was no longer AWD, but RWD, and ONLY for drifting effects in the movie? They also disabled the 4WS system for the same reason. I would have rather watched that car rip around the corners with ease, simply obliterating the competition.|
|Yeh your right on that one! one of my mates cars has nos and it sure does fly and he was driving around purging it around every one|
|just adding on to wot i was sayen about the purge valve blows out air and old nitrous so only the freshest of nos is used|
|Who ever tha fuck said it woz steam, mate....ya gotta be stupid, its nos that comes out of the purge valve, not steam! and it is used to get any excess nos out of tha lines by blowing it out of a thin brass tube and dont say im wrong because i work in performance direct and they specialize in all nitrous products and why tha fuck would u stick a spark plug in the exaust to make tha flames, u have to be really dumb|
|Regarding what doesnt matter posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 .. hey dumbass.. if you knew anything about neon.. neon is a part of the noble gases.. which neons color is only RED.. now i know you are thinking no because the neon tubes come in blue and stuff like that.. this is because the tube is coated with argon and other elements.. so when the electrical charge is sent threw the tube the argon coating becomes negatively charged causeing another color..|
|re: Doug on Thursday, April 08, 2004 Okay. Traction only matters as you make it out to be if both drivers SUCK. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that you don't just fucking jam on the gas pedal if your engine is powerful enough to burn the rubber off a start. Ever play mario kart? Its that friggin simple. "witchever has better traction is gonna win, you put regular tires on that modified mustang and run it against that stock civic guess what that civic will prob. take it for the simple fact the mustang's gonna smoke the tire's half the race, you put fat street slick's on the back of that stock mustang, it will prob. take the modified civic and stock civic" The slicks let a car with excess power put a little more into acceleration throttle without slipping. You can run on street tires a little slower by watching how hard you stomp on the gas, but that does NOT mean a 4banger has the advantage! Civics and your Saturn - modded or not - GET TRACTION BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE ENOUGH TORQUE TO SLIP THEIR TIRES, MUCH LESS MOVE GROCERIES! For gods sake...who the hell smokes their tires for HALF A RACE? Aside from the amateurs youve been racing around with in the parking lot, anyways. Can the saturn make 88 miles an hour? Turn on the flux capacitor!|
|The flames were cause by a flamethrower....it was on Pimp my Ride...That stang was SWEEEEEET!|
|OK the movie wasn't great but what kind of sad people are you over there in the states? You're just like your own president, kinda dumn... Only the editor of this forum seems to know his things! quit bragging about and get yourself some real action! Greetz|
|im soon to buy a lancer evolution mr or in the us the evo ralliart and it runs 12.9 in the quarter stock the movie did suck and the spark plug in the exhaust will work if you have the right fuel to air ratio as for the so called steam it is actually nitrous gas and to get it to come out like that you must get a nos fogger system|
|how the hell does the purge valve let out the nos steam thing? does anybody have any pics of that?not the one in 2f2f.|
|HEY ALEX SHUT THE FUCK UP DAMM KID U DIDENT WIN A CAR AND U DIDENT RACE FOR SLIPS AND WHO THE FUCK PUTS A PROPANE TANK IN THERE CAR U WOULD DIE
(Editor's note: Propane has been used by hot rodders for years to make exhaust flames)
|these racers are true because i live in california trust me there ar alot mor builtup cars then there ar in calfornia im a street racer myself|
|ok, damn just about all of you are fucking idiot's , to start with comparing v8's against 4s lmfao, that's hilarious, u know i go ta 98 saturn sl2 stock, ive beat a toyota carola, honda accord with pipe and intake, crx with complete exaust system and intake, toyota tacoma pickup, and a stock pontiac firebird v8,,, i lost my first race last wed. with a faster car, a 95 dodge stealth v6 front wheel drive, and if i raced against my saturn my saturn would prob. win rite now, it's not as simple as you faggot's make it out to be, v8s will beat 4s anyday "IF THEY HAVE TRACTION" read what the fuck i just typed that's the reason i beat that firebird, my saturn was outa the whole quicker, my stealth lost cause i smoked the fucking tire's half the race it was the first time i raced it, didnt expect it to have that much power, but the simple fact is, you have weight, power, "TRACTION" and lot's of other shit, it's not just 4 against 8 u can get 4 car's a stock mustang, a modified mustang, a stock civic and a modified civic, witchever has better traction is gonna win, you put regular tires on that modified mustang and run it against that stock civic guess what that civic will prob. take it for the simple fact the mustang's gonna smoke the tire's half the race, you put fat street slick's on the back of that stock mustang, it will prob. take the modified civic and stock civic, that's my word's peace|
|That movie was the gayest movie ever. The only tight thing was the skyline which they riced out which was gay. And why the hell do they love underbody glow and stickers sooo much, o yeah they make your car go faster ............not. But on a real note the movie was ultra fake and all you losers who liked it are losers and probably drive riced out civics and cavalers. Thge only thing that movie is good for is Eva Mendes the rest blows. PS why the hell would you want flames to come out of you exuasht anyways.. it clearly doesnt make your car faster so whats the point. O did i forget to mention that that movie blows|
|gosh heated debate goin on in here eh? the movie wasn't as great as it could have been.. there thats what everyone should say... cos think bout it... so many cars... spotlight on 2, might as well be a mitsubishi ad.. well ok there was the skyline... not enough emphasis on the cars.. hell even part 1 was better in that sense.. at least u see an eensy weensy bit of the supra bein put together... Oh and has anyone ever noticed that when they show the first shots of the skyline the pedals seem to change in each shot? like first i saw stock pedals.. then when the cops stopped him i saw savage pedal covers.. oh yea and it wuda bin kewler if the guy jus kept his skyline.. i mean c'mon.. what happens to it? if i owned that car i'd be more than a little pissed.. Thats my contribution to this topic.. a movie that could have been a lot more.. that was 2 fast 2 furious.. (didn't even hav nice scenes of Eva Mendes either.. ) ... :(|
|yea, better fix something here before you get the wrong Idea about me, I love the movie|
|you r the biggest fuckin dumbass i thought the movie was really good. and it was better than the first. and cars can shoot flames when they accellerate if they have a small propane tank and a shock plug connected to the muffulers. But of course u and ur brother r way to stupid to think about it. and i raced for pinkslips and guess what i won a evo 7 once again u are stupid|
|Alright, I would like to first start bty saying that I have thoroughly researched the flame throwing exhaust thing and it is not simply generated by putting a sparkplug in your exhaust. If the engine is naturaly aspirated then there are only 2 ways to get flames to exit through your exhaust|
|hey, I know this is pretty much off topic compared to what most of you all are saying but I was just wondering, would there be n e back draft or anything like that if you did use the sparkplug in the exaust? just wanted to check before I started in on the project and end up blowing my car to hell and back :) thx|
|I'm really into the sport compact scene but these morons really need to take a dose of reality when talking about straight line performance. In 1968 Dodge and Plymouth released a Dart and a Barracuda package called the "Super Stock" package. This was a "stock" vehicle, straight from the factory. It had a 426 Hemi in race prep form pushing more than 480 hp AT THE REAR WHEELS (dyno'd not published). The cars had lexan glass windows, factory delete of anything not needed to go fast, acid dipped doors and lightened hood and trunk lid. This added up to a 2150 lb vehicle minus driver. And the quarter mile time? 10.6. That's right! 10.6 seconds in the quarter mile in a factory stock vehicle (with crappy 1968 rubber none-the-less). If you don't believe me, do the research, it's easy to find. I suppose you could argue that this car was meant for drag racing only since it had a sticker inside that said "Not for use on public roads. For temporary acceleration time trials only" but it technically WAS stock from the factory this way. :) Now...another dose of reality. How fast a car goes in the quarter mile is (more or less) a simple matter of power to weight. Sure, there's traction and drag coefficient, but the most important roles are power of the engine and weight of the vehicle. The power of an engine (we're talking 4 stroke, pump gas burning, typical cylinder engines) is directly relational to it's displacement and it's efficiency. If the engines are the same efficiency, the bigger displacement version will always put out proportionately more power without the addition of power adders. Furthermore, power adders (forced induction, NOS) tend to add percentile increases to engines meaning the same power adder will generally get more of a power boost in a larger displacement engine than a smaller one. SOOO...in the end, the advantage definitely goes to the large V8's of the world. The V8 guys, however, need to swallow their pride and add the same power adders to their small blocks and big blocks that the sport compacts use to differentiate themselves again. Right now you're seeing a lot of turbo'd/nos'd i4's going against normally aspirated V8's and winning. Power adders add a LOT of power. :)|
|all of you are idiots i cant believe you everone knows that the hundyi excell is the fastest car out there and nothing can beat it i mean nothing but the thing was that i didnt even see one in fast in the furious 3 yeah i said it fast and the furious 3 oh i forgot to tell you i am from the future where all the hundyi excells will rule the earth and the streets and even the autobaun hail hundyi and thier greatest machine ever the excell|
|OKAY........ ANY CAR / CYCLE / LAWNMOWER CAN THROW FLAMES WITH A SPARK PLUG IN THE EXAUST, YOU CONTROL THE FLAME WITH A SWITCH AND OR BUTTON.
AND FOR THE "ME" / "KM" FUCK HEAD AUSIE DUCHE
I HAVE A 12.5sec TURBO SUPRA, AND ON GRUDGE NIGHT V-8 GM CAMEROS HAVE KILLED ME BEFORE.
AND SROCK MR2's WILL NOT DO 13's. DUMB ASS
2F2F DID SUCK THOUGH
and oh yeah most hondas are slow kiddie cars
|regardin anonymous from thursday oct 2 of 03, i know im a little late here, the flame that emits from the cars is caused by a little something that you can buy from autoloc, a flame thrower system, and , if you want it blue(or pink or gold or red) simply inject that color of neon into the exhaust stream, its nor from race gas you faggot, secondly regardin not rice form oct 17 of the same year, you are a complete retard, street racing is only like that to gay little kids like yourself who here about street races in your area and tell stories like you were there, and finally regarding me from feb 07 of 04, you are pretty dumb, i say that because you must have never heard of cars such as the chevell 396ss the boss mustang, the big block yenko's, the supercharged dodges from the sixties that ran 12's in stock trim, maybe try doing a little homework before mouthing off to someone who simply doesnt like a movie is a better idea, o yea one more thing, the most pwerful v8 street car is not the holden, you queer|
|Sorry, that movie did suck. Too many innaccuracies and way too many cheezey stunts. I hope they keep things a little more realistic next time.....if there is one|
|Sorry bud but when u look at the cars that are running in the drag races the V-8s are the ones laying down the times. Not the little rice cars. There is no replacement for displacement! When u are talking about the little jap cars u forget to mention the rice boy favorite the civic and thoes can be beat by just about any 60s muscle car. No equally built 4 will ever beat an equally built 8 and theres no way to argue that!
(Editor's Note: THIS IS NOT ABOUT IMPORT VS. DOMESTIC. THIS IS ABOUT A MOVIE THAT REALLY, REALLY SUCKS. THIS IS NOT BAOUT WHICH CAR WILL BEAT WHICH CAR, AND IT IS NOT A PISSING MATCH. Future comments along these lines will simply not be posted.)
|2 Fast 2 Furious
|All I can say is, this whole EGO PROBLEM thing that people have with what nationality a car is, is just a fucking a joke!
First of all, the Mistubishi EVO is a 206kw ALL WHEEL DRIVE vehicle that does 13 seconds on the quarter in STOCK FORM!
Now a V8 dinosaure junk piece of shit NEVER EVER EVER came close to a 13 second bracket in stock form, only in highly modified form!
So to all those white trash dickheads out there that like AMERICAN PIECE OF UGLY SHIT, well, that just says a lot about what you know about cars.
ALMOST ALL turbo 4s if not all, are kicking the arse off V8 muscle.
Im from australia and the most powerfull V8 street car is the HOLDEN (GENERAL MOTORS) 300kw/400horsepower 5.7L V8.
Now that thing does 14s on the quarter, and 0-100km/h in 6 seconds. THATS FUCKING SHIT TIMES!
compare that to a 180kw (245hp) MR2 TURBO which does 13's stock form, and see who wins.
every other V8 was only producing 180kw (245hp), e.g GM HOLDEN COMMODORE VS, VT etc.
This whole ignorant view that v8's are king is a fucking joke cause it's bullshit, JAP CARS DONT NEED NITROUS, they just want nitrous to make it go faster, something wrong with using nitrous?
ALL YOU COCKS OUT THERE THAT LIKE V8 muscle white trash DONK ugly shitboxes can go shuv it up your arses
|if there is a way for the stream and the flame
id like to know but until somebody explains it to me and shows me the scamatics on how or a kit to but to do it i reall dont think it real so if there is a way let me know
|Ok ill agree with the editor.... but the flames in the movie were def. done either by computer or some other way and not by just engine since they lasted way too long.|
|All of you people are morons! The flames are NOT caused by an excess of fuel going throught the engine! That would mean it is improperly tuned! A great way to blow a ring! On some older cars this might work but not on a little econo pos rice car. Also thats not steam, dumbass, thats nos going through a purge valve. 2F2F was a terrable movie that made you all all think you know more about cars than you really do. Why the hell would you waant steam coming out of your car? Just stupid......I wont even adress some of the other posts since the people think that they have everything figured out!
(Editor's note: Anyone who knows anything about EFI system...especially those that involve turbos and open vented BOV valves...knows that a momentary rich condition is created when the throttle is suddenly snapped shut. This can cause excessive afterburn and hence the flames.)
|i am a car lover and i want to know two things:
1. how in the HELL do you get steam to come from your car?
2. how do you get fire to come out of your pipes
I want to know these things because i am about to buy a toyota celica gts (04') and give it a veilside EC-1 kit for looks. I want to know if this is all worth it. SOMEONE PLEASE ANS
is it true that the only way to get an exaust flame is by using N2O?
and i want to get steam out of the sides of my car do you need N2O for that?
Well most of the people here writing are wrong because i own a 49 merc customized like the one in rebel without a cause and it has ilegal flamethrowers and what i did is put a spark plug into the pipe and the motor can't burn all of the gas going into the cylinders and the rest goes through the exaust and when the spark plug fires it burns the vapours creating Fire from your exhaust. And it was good to show some American Steel beating some junky rice rockets without even using Nos and if it wasn't real it still looked good
|those exhaust pipes are just phonied up; in order to get this car to appear to shoot flames from its exhaust (a sure sign of sophistication) the movie company foreshortened exhaust pipes and pumped their flames through the vestigial tips. so all you is wrong but if you wanna see some flames go to the drag races LEGAL cuz most street racers would not hook up some kind of bottle to make it look good since it would add weight.
|Ok, I go to the illegal meets. THEY ARE NOTHING LIKE THAT! the only accurate part was when the cops showed up in FF1. about one in two hundred cars have underbody lights, and these are laughed at. VERY few have NO2 and none but the odd lifted subaru ever do jumps! and, by the way, the only flames out the back of an exaust i have seen without the riced up gas spray pumps (used in FF2, that everyone laughs at, especially when the guy burns himself trying to fix it) was accompanied with a crying driver and a 4 thousand dollar repair bill for his motor and god knows how much for his muffler.
If mr anonymous' explanation were correct, those are some pretty broken car engines or great quality stealth bomber engines. it would screw up the exaust every time!
|shut ya mouth! you MORON!!!|
|evo VIII actually 'not rice'....but i agree with u bout all the rest|
|Wow, you sure do know your stuff, don't you? Enough to know that the Green Car you called an MR2 is actually a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VII, one of the best handling, rally-bred cars in the world. And guess what? There are street-racing events that are EXACTLY like that. Maybe not in bu-fu where you're from. Maybe it's time to take a trip, and see that in Miami, stuff like that happens all the time. Hell, in Chicago, stuff like that happens frequently too. Or maybe, just maybe....you should drive your 87 IROC with straight pipes into a tree. Go read a book before you start flappin' your mouth, kid.|
|when the cars blow out the flame from their rear end it is because the fuel injectors inject the same amount of fuel each time, and, so when they just start them from being idol, all of the fuel is not ignited and it is pushed out the exaust pipe, usually when the pipe is hot enough or the exaust is hot enough, say from reving it!!!!! the exess fuel is ignited and it is blue because they would probably have been running race fuel. (You would know this if you actually had been to a race) Sigh.|
|This comment just illustrates exactly how little these people know about cars. Nearly everything said is exactly the opposite of right (ie. wrong).|
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