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Posted - Jul 05 2003 :  4:20:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi arron (i think) i have seen your scooter with an engine (well it used to have an engine before you put it on your kart) and i have the same engine for my kart and would like to know how to connect the kill switch up as i know one end has to be grounded but what about the other

Darren

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Posted - Jul 07 2003 :  01:56:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit BEatonNo1's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i always thought the kill switch was attached in circuit with the sparkplug so that when you throw the switch you break the circuit and stop the next ignition

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Posted - Jul 07 2003 :  02:17:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
well so do i and it is that but i have been told by the runner of www.gokartparts.com
that f you just connect the spark plug to the switch and the switch then to the 'ground' (not litrally te acuall ground but the engine) then there is too much current flowing through the kill switch si i would like to know how Aaron connected his as i have the same engine

Darren

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Jul 07 2003 :  09:42:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The Briggs and Stratton engines have a ground wire coming from the primary coil of the magneto which leads to a set of contacts at the carb. When the throttle is closed all the way, these contacts are bridged and the primary coil is shorted to ground. This kills the ignition.

I simply disconnected that wire from the carb and connected a switch through a set of long wires. The other side just grounds to the engine.

You cannot ground the spark plug directly as there are not many switches around rated for 20,000 V that are less then $1000.

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Nerf Smurf
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Posted - Jul 08 2003 :  11:31:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit Nerf Smurf's Homepage  Send Nerf Smurf a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yea the magneto switch was used an many WWII airplanes

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Jul 08 2003 :  5:12:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Grounding out the primary of the magneto is a method used by most simple gas engines to stop them from running.

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Posted - Jul 25 2003 :  3:14:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My engine dosnt have any wires going to the carb as the only way to stop it is to push a bit of metal onto the spark plug

So what can i do

Darren

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cirvin
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Posted - Jul 25 2003 :  3:34:27 PM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
use a solenoid to shove it on the spark plug.

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Kale
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Posted - Jul 25 2003 :  6:22:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kale's Homepage  Send Kale an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
What you need is a heavy mechanical switch. To build a high voltage and current switch just grab a piece of heavy copper bar stock and get a couple of contacts that the bar can set in. I'd make the contact form a couple of inches of the bar you buy. Rig the circuit up so that the sparkplug receives power from this bar. All you have to do to shut down the engine is to knock the bar out of the contacts. It's crude, but it would work.

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cirvin
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Posted - Jul 28 2003 :  11:56:24 PM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
or, for a more sivilised way, you could attach a solenoid to a block of wood. attach one wire to the armature, and then make a conatct plate that the solenoid plunger touches when it is activated, grounding the coil.

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Posted - Aug 04 2003 :  4:51:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have removed the flywheel cover and found the wire that comes out of the inside of the flywheel and into a piece of metal then to the spark plug

is the wire comng from the inside of the flywheel the one i need to ground to cut out the engine

Darren

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cirvin
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Posted - Aug 04 2003 :  5:40:54 PM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
give it a try. it shoudnt do anything wrong to the engine.

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Kale
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Posted - Aug 05 2003 :  3:08:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Kale's Homepage  Send Kale an ICQ Message  Reply with Quote
If it doesn't work, solder the wire back together and tape it up.

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Aug 06 2003 :  3:35:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
What kind of engine is this?

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Posted - Aug 28 2003 :  3:20:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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What kind of engine is this?





It is a briggs and stratton and it looks like the one on your scooter (well before you put it on your go kart)

But it has not terminals on the carb

PLEASE HELP

Darren

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Aug 29 2003 :  4:21:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
There should be a wire coming out from under the flywheel. It connects to the condensor in the breaker box (under flywheel). If you ground that wire, you will cut ignition.

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