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da-g-dog
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Posted - Aug 29 2003 :  02:43:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit da-g-dog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I bought a 10 foot piece of black ABS for the Noisy Cricket spud gun. Only after I had it all assembled, did I notice that it was cellular core ABS. When I began to sharpen the end of the barrel, I noticed that it looked kind of sponge-like. Is this the wrong type of ABS to use for a spud gun, or is it ok?

Also, refering to the High Voltage Generator as the ignition source, is there a circuit that I could install after that which would make the spark pulse really fast? By fast I mean, like, times a second. I would like to do this to enhance the burn even more than just a hotter spark. Or is the spark more than enough?

One more thing. How many amps does the generator draw? I have access to a 12 volt 7.5 amp battery. Would this work as the power supply?

hike master kyle

Edited by - da-g-dog on Aug 29 2003 03:50:53 AM

cirvin
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Posted - Aug 29 2003 :  09:59:46 AM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
your battery is plenty of power. pulsing the spark doesn't neciscarily make it stronger, but putting a capacitor between th terminals does, you will need a very high voltage cap and a rectifier. here is how to hook it up

flyback--rectifier---|--terminal
cap
flyback----------------|--terminal


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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Aug 29 2003 :  4:22:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The HV generator on my site produces a continuous arc for as long as it has power. Pulsing is unnecesary.

I think you have the wrong pipe. You need SCH-40 ABS.

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da-g-dog
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Posted - Aug 29 2003 :  10:05:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit da-g-dog's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:

The HV generator on my site produces a continuous arc for as long as it has power. Pulsing is unnecesary.

I think you have the wrong pipe. You need SCH-40 ABS.




Ok. No pulse then. The pipe does say SCH-40 on it though. And the sidewalls are roughly 3/16 to 1/4" thick.

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cirvin
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Posted - Aug 29 2003 :  11:36:37 PM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
well celualr core abs will probably fail after the first couple of shots. i suggest pvc

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the SPECIALIST
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Posted - Aug 30 2003 :  5:36:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit the SPECIALIST's Homepage  Reply with Quote
i dont think that u should use pvc. i've read that when a pvc cumbustion chamber explodes it send shrapnel everywere however an abs spudgun will crack into 3 or 5 plates

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cirvin
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Posted - Sep 02 2003 :  09:01:10 AM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
i have heard the same for abs. you could wrap chicken wire around it.

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Sep 02 2003 :  10:56:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
If it's SCH-40, then your probably fine. I've never had problems with ABS exploding, even when using an oxygen-propane mixture.

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cirvin
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Posted - Sep 03 2003 :  11:08:13 AM  Show Profile  Send cirvin an AOL message  Reply with Quote
how high a temp can abs take?

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Aaron Cake
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Posted - Sep 04 2003 :  09:42:15 AM  Show Profile  Visit Aaron Cake's Homepage  Send Aaron Cake an ICQ Message  Send Aaron Cake a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
No idea...100 degrees maybe? The high temps in a spudgun only last for half a second or so, which prevents the pipe from melting. Many shots in a row may warm up the pipe enough to soften it...

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